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Description Star Trek has a hit movie and Star Wars has a crappy TV show... has the world gone topsy turvy?!

My thoughts on the new Trek Movie - it was awesome. Exceeded all my expectations, a great movie. But there is also sadness, since this movie also burns 40+ years of Trek history that I love. YES, the movie gives fans the bone that it's an alternative timeline and not actually changing history, but that doesn't matter. The Classic Trek universe (TOS, TNG, DS9, VOY) is dead. Paramount won't be going back to it. Imagine for all you comic fans, if they had cancelled the classic Marvel Universe when they came up with Ultimate Spider-man. Ultimate Spidey is great but...I grew up with classic Marvel U and I love it, even though lately it has gotten pretty sucky.

So while this is a great movie, I will still miss the real Star Trek. The movie's not without flaws of course... Nimoy felt to me to give the weakest performance of the cast, or of his career....Uhura was a totally useless character who added nothing to the movie...and overall it was all action with no real substance or meaning. But it was so good and so much fun I can look past the problems.

Go see it if you haven't!
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celticarchie In reply to ??? [2012-09-06 22:47:53 +0000 UTC]

After getting all that wrong, you can't really expect them to present the Enterprise (the first spacecraft in Science Fiction ever to be designed with the premise 'What if we built it for real? What would it look like? How would it work?') correctly, can you? I mean it's asking that little bit too much. Their (excuse for) brains will implode.

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Pimsleurable In reply to celticarchie [2012-09-07 00:21:08 +0000 UTC]

Truth be told that the Enterprise itself would only exist within the realm of fanatasy. From what I read in an interview with Richard Taylor (who helped design the refit on ST:TMP), its centre of gravity is outside of itself, and it would take all the gyros of this planet to stabilize one single starship within the vacuum of space. I know what you mean, but if the leaches of Paramount where able to get the Enterprise-D onto the big screen only to destroy it, you would think that these so-called die hard Trekkie screenwriters would had have done the same by bringing the classic Enterprise to life. Crude as it was but the classic had an ergonomic design that I liked and it had a wanton act for destruction.

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ZDForrest [2012-07-04 23:46:17 +0000 UTC]

Lol!

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suessseuss In reply to ??? [2012-06-27 19:13:15 +0000 UTC]

the dimensions are cheesy
and very well done,
I must congratulate you;
Hope creating this was fun!

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almendigo13 In reply to ??? [2012-06-17 04:33:49 +0000 UTC]

lol.... (?)

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pinktwirlz [2012-06-11 05:39:07 +0000 UTC]

I actually really liked Uhura lol. I think it's good they did a reboot, I don't think they could have gotten much more out of the original continuity, and i am just happy they are continuing star trek at all instead of letting the movies die altogether. I mean, think about it, they got, like, 5 seasons of TV shows from star trek? And then the seasons within the seasons? I think that it's pretty much run it's course. With the reboot, they are (to quote a comment below me) opening a window of opportunity for the series. Star trek lives on! >

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MarkWilder In reply to pinktwirlz [2012-06-11 23:09:40 +0000 UTC]

The problem isn't Star Trek "running it's course". Star Trek was fine. The problem was massively annoying continuity f***ups by Rick Berman and his staff. (Picard and the Borg, for example)

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pinktwirlz In reply to MarkWilder [2012-06-11 23:31:47 +0000 UTC]

What was the continuity mess ups with the borg? Sorry, I haven't seen that movie in a while.

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MarkWilder In reply to pinktwirlz [2012-06-12 01:39:27 +0000 UTC]

Star Trek: First Contact.

First Contact was a good film, but it REVOLVES around a plothole in Picard's personality, in relation to his experiences with the Borg. Unfortunately, it was the first of many such plotholes.

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pinktwirlz In reply to MarkWilder [2012-06-12 05:07:04 +0000 UTC]

ah :/

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MarkWilder In reply to pinktwirlz [2012-06-13 08:00:58 +0000 UTC]

Yeah. In the series (Years before the First Contact) Captain Picard of the Enterprise was assimilad by the Borg Collective, losing his free will in the process. He was later freed by the crew of the Enterprise. After being freed, he was left with temporarily confused morals: The Federation that Picard works for wants the same thing as the Borg, but the Borg persue that goal with complete disregard for others privacy, comfort, and life:

The Second United Federation wants to cause all people of all species to work together towards making life better for all living things.

The Borg want to become immortal by absorbing all life and technology into themselves. They truly believe that they are "improving" life by taking away all free will, and discarding the emotional soul as well as all "preferences". The Borg have no concepts of love, hate, war, peace, pain, comfort, respect, disrespect, justice, or injustice. To the Borg, there is only Knowledge, Support, and Resistance. This makes negotiation with the Borg 100% impossible: they want your mind, your body, and your technology, and they will accept nothing less.

Picard was originaly very reluctant to harm the Borg as a race because they are not actively malevolent, and because their scociety has several "good" points: but he would easily blow up scores of Borg to save a planet or a ship full of people from being unwillingly assimilated.

In Star Trek: First Contact, he's suddenly extremely genocidal against the entire Borg race: *to the point of putting innocent people in grave danger to kill ONE INDIVIDUAL BORG*. Plot hole much?

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pinktwirlz In reply to MarkWilder [2012-06-13 15:50:22 +0000 UTC]

Oh, yeah that is a big hole lol. Thanks for clearing that up, I don't know much about next gen.

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MarkWilder In reply to pinktwirlz [2012-06-15 16:50:21 +0000 UTC]

Yeah. The film was handeled well, but it was a bit of a mess as far as overall plot. Most of the Next Gen films were like that, thanks to Rick Berman. The Films of the Original Series were much better, except one: Star Trek 5.

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pinktwirlz In reply to MarkWilder [2012-06-15 23:26:40 +0000 UTC]

Well, Star trek 1 was pretty bad as well seeing as it was older.

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MarkWilder In reply to pinktwirlz [2012-06-17 06:31:28 +0000 UTC]

Star Trek 1 wasn't actually bad, just slow and boring. The director wanted it to be like "2001 a Space Odyssey", which Star Trek isn't.

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pinktwirlz In reply to MarkWilder [2012-06-17 06:53:29 +0000 UTC]

Well, for it's time it was pretty good. It just hasn't aged well.

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MarkWilder In reply to pinktwirlz [2012-06-19 05:36:14 +0000 UTC]

I suppose so. The films immediately following aged very well due to their themes, though.

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ProjectOrionII [2012-04-12 22:08:35 +0000 UTC]

I LOVE this image because it sums up how I was upset when Star Wars monopolized the space genre from 1997 until 2009 and how I was so excited when the eleventh Star Trek movie was such a hit that it ended that unjust Star Wars hegemony. Yes the times are a changing as demonstrated by the shiny brand new Star Trek XI poster as opposed to the ratty old cobweb ridden Phantom Menace poster. As an atheist, I feel that Vulcan LOGIC is far superior to the metamagical "Force" used by the Jedi.

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Kiara-Silverpaw [2012-04-05 00:23:42 +0000 UTC]

OMG... That is Hilarious... totally love the chibi spock... totally cute.

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ferrignofan In reply to ??? [2012-03-25 01:02:43 +0000 UTC]

I wish that were true.

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MarkWilder In reply to ferrignofan [2012-06-11 23:09:59 +0000 UTC]

Me too.

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ferrignofan In reply to MarkWilder [2012-06-12 11:23:29 +0000 UTC]

yah man.

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MarkWilder In reply to ferrignofan [2012-06-13 07:37:23 +0000 UTC]

Action does not equal plot. It's esprcially annoying because most of the other Star Trek films are just as actiony, but still have better plot.

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ferrignofan In reply to MarkWilder [2012-06-13 12:27:04 +0000 UTC]

So to right,my favorite is the one with the whales.

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MarkWilder In reply to ferrignofan [2012-06-15 16:48:04 +0000 UTC]

My favourite is Star Trek 2: the Wrath of Khan.

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ferrignofan In reply to MarkWilder [2012-06-15 17:56:01 +0000 UTC]

smarty pants knowin' the names an all that!

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MarkWilder In reply to ferrignofan [2012-06-15 20:03:25 +0000 UTC]

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ferrignofan In reply to MarkWilder [2012-06-16 13:49:20 +0000 UTC]

Lolz

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Tiefgrund In reply to ??? [2012-02-01 18:00:38 +0000 UTC]

LOL. The eternal battle between the franchises. great.

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TheElevatedDeviant [2012-01-21 03:24:41 +0000 UTC]

***Vader slices the top of Spock's head off***
Vader: Shut up.

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ammarose [2011-12-27 23:27:17 +0000 UTC]

Star Trek 2009 opened up a new window of opportunity think of it as seeing the characters in a far different light.

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123ery [2011-12-23 05:02:32 +0000 UTC]

still so funny... months later and i still cant help but laughing.

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hourglass-paperboats [2011-12-08 13:50:07 +0000 UTC]

HELL YEAH!!!!!!!!!!

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Vernon88Dine [2011-12-01 06:20:20 +0000 UTC]

Star Trek is Number One PERIOD!!!!! STOP ALL THIS BAD MOUTHING

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SaiyanPower2468 [2011-11-26 16:29:22 +0000 UTC]

Yeah I know what you mean Star Wars now has the weird clone wars thing O__o also, aren't they making a Star Trek X (correct me if that's the wrong number) in Feburary next year? :3

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MattMoylan In reply to SaiyanPower2468 [2011-11-29 16:46:53 +0000 UTC]

They're working on another movie yes. it would be the 12th Trek movie though they don't use the numbers anymore.

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SaiyanPower2468 In reply to MattMoylan [2011-12-02 02:18:14 +0000 UTC]

Oh, really? :3 I thought they did ^_^;; well, thanks~!

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Bungalov In reply to ??? [2011-11-17 19:38:54 +0000 UTC]

Love it

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batman1939roblox In reply to ??? [2011-11-14 12:56:10 +0000 UTC]

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UnicornButtCupcake In reply to ??? [2011-11-07 02:06:08 +0000 UTC]

Awwwwwww........



Jr. Darth Vader Baby: "YOU HURT MY FEELINGS, YOU SON OF A BUSINESSMAN!"
Jr. Spock Baby: o.O (backing away slowly ...)

Resume of this: Jr. Spock got beaten up as rvenge ... badly

e_e

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tamakiluv95 [2011-10-25 22:35:14 +0000 UTC]

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Lady-Sandglass In reply to ??? [2011-10-13 16:11:47 +0000 UTC]

OMG, that is SO true!

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Majestic-MSFC In reply to ??? [2011-10-11 09:04:19 +0000 UTC]

I totally agree on your sediments. I felt Nimoy was too emotional as Spock in this latest movie, not like the Spock we've known for 45 years.

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someotherguy2 [2011-09-30 04:36:11 +0000 UTC]

Well, at least Starwars doesn't have to completely discard all previous series and timelines to make a good film.

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StarTrekFTW In reply to ??? [2011-09-20 23:37:09 +0000 UTC]

You show him, Spock! Star Trek pwns, star wars sucks, an I doubt it'll ever get more popular then it is.

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ProjectOrionII In reply to StarTrekFTW [2012-04-25 23:09:37 +0000 UTC]

I hate Star Wars too and the time that the eleventh Star Trek movie first came out was a great time in which Star Wars got curbed. Another movie that is watering down Star Wars is James Cameron's Avatar which is now my #1 all-time favorite movie. Avatar inspite of inflated ticket pricing overtook Star Wars in the box office.

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StarTrekFTW In reply to ProjectOrionII [2012-04-26 10:47:49 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, and I heard that when they brought back that Star Wars movie it didn't do that well in theaters! (the name of the movie escapes me at the moment...) So I doubt they'll bring another Star Wars movie back into the theaters. Oh, and thanks for the watch!

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MarkWilder In reply to StarTrekFTW [2012-04-27 13:01:22 +0000 UTC]

I don't totally hate Star Wars...

I hate the annoying majority of fans that annoy Star Trek fans for giggles. (I'm a Star Trek tech fan: I love the show the characters, and geek out on the technology) Here's what a Star Wars fan had to say:

[link]

And my response.

[link]

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StarTrekFTW In reply to MarkWilder [2012-04-29 02:23:54 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, I see your point. The Star Wars fans are part of the reason I don't like Star Wars so much.

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MarkWilder In reply to StarTrekFTW [2012-04-29 03:19:22 +0000 UTC]

Exactly. I always enjoyed Star Trek TOS and the early movies: I also enjoyed Star Wars. I was rejoicing at every single film of each franchise, and always saw them theatrical. (I was put off a bit by Star Wars Episode 1's portrayal of Obi-Wan... but meh)

It was after I discovered Star Destroyer.net that my perceptions changed. I was referred to that fanwanking travesty by an "Oh so kind" Star Wars fan who "also liked Star Trek"

[link]

Yeah, right.

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