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So yeah. I do frequent the interwebs, and a few people have challenged my lineup for which classes I picked for which ponies. I decided to do these as a sort of rebuttle.FLUTTERMEDIC PROBLEMS:
Okay, one thing any good Medic knows is this; your job is to run around, healing people to build up an uber charge, in the thick of battle. You only run away when you are outgunned; an Engineer who has wandered away from his nest, an exposed sniper, a spy... enemies like this you can probably take. You have weapons; when you have them, logic notes that it is intended you use them, if sparingly. The Ubercharge is an important factor of the Medic - the longer you keep your allies alive, the more they can kill. Kritzkrieg is particularly designed to aid in the killing part of that equation.
The common argument FOR Fluttermedic is 'Fluttershy wouldn't hurt anypony.' My response is that if she wouldn't, she probably wouldn't be in these war games. If Fluttershy was to live up to the projected idea people have for her, she would most likely spend her entire time in the base, wasting uber charges to aid in escape, only healing team mates who manage to run away from the fight and probably would have an easier time just reaching the locker.
Basically, she'd be that medic you votekick for being a newb.
Medics, if played right, are tools of destruction as much as healing.
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TF2 (C) Valve
MLP:FiM (C) Hasbro/Lauren Faust
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You'd have to admit, Fluttershy would do one hell of an evil laugh just like the Medic did.
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I disagree twilgiht is pretty strong and fluttershy would never be a sniper imagine her throwing a jarate.....
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Imagine Fluttershy cutting people with a bonesaw or sticking them with needles.Β Doesn't kill outright.Β Just hurts like bloody hell.
There is no escaping destruction or humiliation.Β Flutters, in my mind, would be the most likely to be far away from combat.Β Besides, the Medic is the freakin' amazingness-maker-happener.Β Fluttershy is, no offense to her fans, among the least amazing of the Mane 6.
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I did`nt say that she should be medic I jsut said Fluttershy throwing a jarate and know that you talk about it that way yah fluttermedic is horrible
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Could you picture her as any other class?
And be reasonable; I doubt Fluttershy would ever be Soldier or Demoman.
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hmmm....probaly spy becuase Flutters hides alot
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My only problem with that is that the Spy is a backstabbing class.Β While killing maybe an unavoidable element for the mercs, backstabbing seems a tad too much for Fluttershy.Β At least with sniping, headshots could be considered something of a mercy.
That aside, Spy was the second place idea I had for Flutters - that or Engineer (who can avoid combat; she only lost out cause Pinkie fit the class more).
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true becuase look at the taunt for the kukiri
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www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHlSzvβ¦
my good man, just because fluttershy is meek doesn't mean she won't fight like hell to defend her friends if they need it.Β
Plus, how exactly does twilight have medical knowledge? the closest thing we've seen her do to healing is heal discord's corruption in s2e2. in compareison, we've actually seen fluttershy heal her animal friends.
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You miss the point.
The point is that a lot of people make her Medic CLAIMING she wouldn't hurt anypony and that she's shy.Β I was countering that argument.
How does FLUTTERSHY have medical knowledge? We've seen Twilight ready to assist a tent filled with sick ponies, so we can assume she knows SOMETHING.Β We saw Fluttershy give pills to a phoenix and tell a mouse what to do with a broken leg, which at best says she has vet experience.Β Plus, Fluttershy is more of the 'living with animals in trees and woods' type than the 'surrounded by chemicals and performing mad experiments on allies' type.
In my mind, best Medics go in this order, from best to worst; Twilight, Zecora, Dr. Stable, Nurse Redheart, Pinkie Pie, then Fluttershy.
Fluttershy makes a better engi than Medic - Dispenser allows for healing, can be aggressive or defensive, doesn't HAVE to get into the fight.
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Since when were background ponies besides zecora even an option.
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Since Fluttershy made a terrible choice for Medic.
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also:Β
www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4Y2UZβ¦
www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjf8t-β¦
and as for the whole "crazed scientist" angle...
www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGloKtβ¦
i think fluttershy can be even more crazy then twilight when she wants to.
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Can you picture Fluttershy exploding someone's heart in an experiment?
How about cutting out an animal's heart to use in such an experiment?
How about preserving Rarity's head in a fridge?
What about running around in the middle of a hail of gunfire? And I don't mean just sometimes, I mean ALL the time (a good Medic is always in the battlefield).
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Then you, sir, clearly do not understand the character.
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Ok fine. You called my bluff. I don't see fluttershy doing any of that.
Listen, while I'm momentarily sane. You HAVE to stop arguing. If I don't have the last word, I will just keep replying until I do. The only way to win is for you to stop arguing.
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Arguing to win is a waste of time and an attempt to be acknowledged as being right.
I argue because I am not convinced.
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Hate to spoil your fun, but an evil brother has also dulled me to the shock that comes with these 'jumpscare' links.
I give you credit for the flashy images though.Β Had I had a history of epilepsy, you certainly would have shut me up.
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I find this Funny why can't people just laugh stop critizizing
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Yeeeah, some people REALLY don't like their head canon to be challenged.Β They can't say "Well, everyone is entitled to their own interpretations" - they say "THIS IS THE WAY I'M USED TO IT AND I WILL NOT SIT IDLY BY AND LET SOME SON OF A WOMAN-OF-THE-EVENING DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT!"
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But we can't please Everyone I mean look at Equestria Girls; Fans: I wish they were in human form (After Trailer) I'm leaving the Fandom (Twilight gets Wings) Leaving the Fandom (Season 3) It is not as good as the previous seasons, I'm Leaving the Fandom!
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Yeeah, bronies are a.... confusing bunch.Β I think a lot of them aren't inventive and like to think of the answers and conclusions that require the least thought sometimes. XD
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I have no idea what you mean, if you're agreeing with me or disagreeing, but that don't matter - you said that it sounds canon, which is itself silly, because there *IS* no canon when it comes to TF2/Pony mixups.Β There is only fan interpretation based on some sort of observation.
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I feel as if I have invoked a wrath, haha.
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Nah, I just find it incredibly silly when people are like "This is the way it is" cause them I'm like "Unless Hasbro has said so themselves I doubt it."
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Medic and Flutters have very different personalities.
That's why I'm not a huge fan of it.
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If killing is the problem then why is she even playing this game? Your argument here counteracts her being a sniper as well. Every class has to kill or be involved in killing. It's the whole game.Β
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A good medic has to be able to charge right into the fight with the other classes, and keep them alive while keeping themselves from being killed. That's why Metal is saying Fluttershy doesn't make a good medic. The snipers is the only classes that really needs to completely avoid combat, as even a spy with a good aim and a revolver is still too deadly a fight.
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He thinks I'm saying that Fluttershy WOULDN'T fight.Β Logically speaking? Perhaps not.Β What he fails to notice is I am saying that that argument doesn't work in a game where everyone fights to some extent.
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Not really.Β My argument isn't that she shouldn't be in the game - what I'm saying is the argument she should be Medic because she wouldn't hurt anyone is a flawed one.Β I don't think ANY of them would really be mercenaries; there are certain liberties to be taken, for sure.
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Okay well I can still see her picking that class as being the one that kills the least. Sure they all have to kill, but at the point she is worried about others getting killed even if it wasn't directly by her hoof. This is where I find the flaw in your argument (at least in the comic). You say there are certain liberties to be taken, and yet you do take those for your sniper argument and not for the medic one. Either she is okay enough with killing (to an extent) to play the game or she isn't. If she is okay with it then I feel that she would trend more in the direction of aiding the team as a medic, or perhaps even engi so that the killing is at lest indirect most of the time. But a sniper, whos only job is to kill? The justification is that she is weaker and therefore would not want to fight directly, but there are several classes you can say that about and that are more for defense than anything else and I think there are good reasons why they would be better than sniper.Β
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You seem to assume... I have NO idea what you're assuming.Β Liberties ARE taken - they HAVE to be, because I somehow doubt ANY of the ponies in these lineups would be willing to kill other ponies; let alone ponies that look suspiciously familair.Β If I was going to NOT take liberties, then NOPONY would be anything *BUT* the Medic and the Engineer.
The problem with Fluttershy playing the Medic is that the Medic gets in the thick of things - he is CONSTANTLY exposed to danger if he is doing his job right.Β He pops uber charges and runs around getting shot at (cause you ALWAYS aim for the Medic).Β Mixing that with the pressure that comes with being the sole healing class... I don't think Fluttershy could handle that kind of pressure.Β She'd be more likely to be an engineer than a Medic for the sole fact that the Engineer can stay in the safety of his base and do the healing part of the Medic's job and only worry when pressure is being applied.Β The only reason she didn't get THAT class is because I couldn't negotiate it with her character.
No, the justification for Sniper is not his weakness - it's his aversion to battle, first off.Β The Sniper's weakness does play into it, but the core of the match is that if he's smart, he stays behind the actual fighting, only peaking out just enough to shoot someone.Β People like to ignore Fluttershy's defining characteristic - her shyness - when picking the Medic class. You forget that the Sniper *DOES* have support capabilities, even if minor.Β The Jarate allows them to make enemies weak to mini crits, as well as allowing them to put out burning allies. Their secondary items tend to focus more on protecting them or others than they do on killing - jarate, shields, Cozy Camper.
The Medic is something of an assertive class.Β They draw attention to themselves by merely their very presence.Β And that's ignoring the more 'taste'-based themes (mad scientist doctor who experiments on his team mates and considers healing to be a side effect of his real experiments) - Flutters just doesn't fit the TF2 Medic's nature.
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Oh! I see what you are saying now. Yeah that makes more sense. I thought you were saying something else. I see your points now.Β
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This just reminded me of my game with bots this morning, where I watched a Medic shoot down a Heavy.
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HAH! I love that.Β I'm still surprised by this one game I played where I was playing Medieval Mode and went on a killing spree as Medic - Demomen, Scouts, and one heavy.Β I was so proud all the way up to the point an arrow went through my head. XD
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Well then. Huntsman kills everything in Medieval anyways, so it's still cool.
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I prefere playing Medic - I can shoot into crowds and it's almost 75% likely that I'll hit SOMETHING, so no matter what I help. XD
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Medic is one true Medieval Mode master race. The ability to fight both long and short range, healing and personal regeneration, and the increased maneuverability over most classes makes them a deadly fighter.
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And thus the reason I play demo with the default grenade launcher. 100% chance of hitting something the the opposing team is in a clump.
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...Hang on.
There we go.
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