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Odachi65 — What would you think about 'Corpse Debts' Alexis?

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Regreme [2017-11-28 16:35:19 +0000 UTC]

Wonder how she'd react to the Overlord novels. Such undead labor is common in there, but most undead in it are sapient. Many, admittedly, start out with a distaste towards the living... but some actually change their opinions after spending time with them, thanks in part to Ainz's orders to work with humans and the like.

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Odachi65 In reply to Regreme [2017-11-30 05:55:31 +0000 UTC]

Well, if they're a truly sapient, not-inherently evil race than Alexis wouldn't particularly hate them. Alexis as a character is very accepting of other forms of life, as long as they don't pose a constant danger to those around. Admittedly due to her experiences with Vampires in the past she might be a bit prejudiced, but overall she wouldn't be against the idea as long as the Undead were treated fairly. If they were used as Slave Labor or the like, she wouldn't accept that easily either.

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Regreme In reply to Odachi65 [2017-11-30 06:01:38 +0000 UTC]

Well, in that series, those summoned for said slave labor actually do so happy to serve their creator and such. So, it's a bit of a thin line there, eh?


Oh, by the way, had an idea I was hoping to discuss with ya, by the way.^_^ IF time permits, key word with if since I may have a lot less time soon, I may get into the kisekae scene due to ideas with creations in regards to said idea, to a limited extent.

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Odachi65 In reply to Regreme [2017-11-30 07:03:03 +0000 UTC]

Kind of, yeah.

If you have an idea you'd like to discuss, feel free to throw a note my way or mention it in a comment. I'd be happy to answer any questions you might have. That said, my time to work on stuff can be a bit limited (as you can probably tell from my slow release schedule), so if you were thinking of a true collab (with me writing/creating kisekae art), I can't give an accurate timeframe right now.

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Regreme In reply to Odachi65 [2017-11-30 16:02:46 +0000 UTC]

Understandable.

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MKalut [2017-11-28 16:04:57 +0000 UTC]

Hence the reason that soul's are more often used as collateral as they fall in more of the legal gray area.

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Odachi65 In reply to MKalut [2017-11-30 05:52:44 +0000 UTC]

Alexis: I'm sorry to say that there isn't much of a "legal" grey area there in my world. Bargaining for souls is one of the most severe crimes one can commit.

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MKalut In reply to Odachi65 [2017-12-09 03:40:46 +0000 UTC]

I was talking about using your own soul as collateral not the collection of other's.  The later not only walls into a moral and legal black area, but also constitutes one of the most dangerous forms of magic that frankly makes necromancy look to be safe by comparison.  I mean that there is zero margin for error in preforming such magic and even the slightest mishap can cause the magic to rebound in horrific ways where lose of life is considered lucky.

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Odachi65 In reply to MKalut [2017-12-09 08:49:41 +0000 UTC]

Alexis: And that's where the problem comes in. You can't exactly wager your soul as collateral without someone being able to take it away from you. What you've said about gathering souls is absolutely correct within my world, but it's still difficult to wager something you don't have absolute control of.

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blackviper1 [2017-11-28 07:39:32 +0000 UTC]

Connie: Huh Necromany in your world is so weird, it's like no one did the debugging on the spell patterns and screwed up the automated defense features. 

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Odachi65 In reply to blackviper1 [2017-11-30 05:51:43 +0000 UTC]

Alexis: Not precisely. It's moreso that in my world, Necromancy doesn't create a simple "robot" or "puppet", it creates an, albeit un-living, creature. Said creature has naturally destructive and violent impulses, and while they can be tamed and controlled, like any animal you must have extreme caution.

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blackviper1 In reply to Odachi65 [2017-12-01 13:05:08 +0000 UTC]

Connie: Honestly I'm always surprised about stuff like that, guess it's just how I'm used to my own world's system. I mean sure it's kind of freaky seeing a bunch of zombies working in a quarry but there is nothing wrong with it so long as the Necromancer is licensed and isn't trying to cut costs using stolen corpses. I mean it's not like they are doing something illegal like mental magic. 

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Odachi65 In reply to blackviper1 [2017-12-05 02:54:25 +0000 UTC]

Alexis: I can understand that. If Necromancy was truly safe, it would be far less abhorrent in my own world, but considering the inherent dangers, it's not something any legitimate, good-hearted mage would conside pursuing.

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blackviper1 In reply to Odachi65 [2017-12-05 18:41:01 +0000 UTC]

Connie: Well maybe there is a problem in the underlying methods, perhaps trying to get the same effect through a different route might eliminate the problem. 

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Odachi65 In reply to blackviper1 [2017-12-09 08:43:43 +0000 UTC]

Alexis: Technically you could use telekinesis to manipulate corpses like puppets, but it'd be no more efficient than using an actual mannequin, and even then it's not really particularly efficient from a mana perspective. It's really just a fundamental part of magic in my universe. It's not about doing Necromancy "wrong", it's just the only way to perform it.

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blackviper1 In reply to Odachi65 [2017-12-13 04:55:39 +0000 UTC]

Connie: Guess that is just the quirks of your world then, a pity really. Ever since Necromancy became a part of the mining and construction industries the efficiency has sky rocketed, although the debates about the loss of cheap labor jobs are still on going. 

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Odachi65 In reply to blackviper1 [2017-12-13 05:33:50 +0000 UTC]

Alexis: I can understand the applications, but once again, it's simply too dangerous within the rules of my world. Every fantasy or Urban fantasy setting has their own rules to follow.

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blackviper1 In reply to Odachi65 [2017-12-13 07:18:06 +0000 UTC]

Connie: Yeah...I mean my universe is still debating if souls exist or not while you guys know for a fact that they are a thing. 

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Odachi65 In reply to blackviper1 [2017-12-14 06:02:47 +0000 UTC]

Alexis: Yeah, I can see that being a major difference. To be honest, it's kind of weird here. The existence of the soul answers a lot of spiritual and philosophical questions, although it's still fair to argue otherwise.

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alexwarlorn [2017-11-28 07:02:43 +0000 UTC]

Meh. I can understand the dangers of INTELLIGENT undead like vampires whose soul is replaced by a demon's. 

But Lich are just people who placed their soul in a jar to remotely control their body. 

And low level undead are glorified robots. It's no different from people who carry an organ donor card. 

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Odachi65 In reply to alexwarlorn [2017-11-30 05:49:41 +0000 UTC]

Alexis: Well, in my world that's not entirely accurate. A basic "Zombie" isn't a "glorified robot", it's more like a trained, inherently violent animal. While dogs can be trained well to perform tasks, there is no such thing as "perfect" control, and if you aren't especially careful they can surprise you. In the case of a Lich, they're a lot more dangerous than you'd assume. By removing their soul, they ignore a key part of their identity, and their minds degrade with time. They grow incredibly obsessive dangerously quickly, and as their conscious erodes they lack the morality to keep them in check. They usually become demented, almost like a parody of their former selves. Liches also need a large amount of magical energy to sustain themselves, which can easily lead them down cruel and dangerous paths. Basically, it's a lot more complicated than it immediately appears.

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ERA-7 [2017-11-28 06:00:17 +0000 UTC]

I think you have a cool imagination. Added to favs! Keep doing the awesome work and have a nice day!

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Odachi65 In reply to ERA-7 [2017-11-30 05:45:08 +0000 UTC]

Thank you very much, I appreciate it!

I have a lot of fun writing lore and the like.

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