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Published: 2016-07-28 19:20:13 +0000 UTC; Views: 2071; Favourites: 27; Downloads: 0
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Took me a while to see how I'd write this, because there's a few different things that's could've been there, but I think it speaks for itself for those who follow my memes. Keep in mind that many people got mad at me for judging games before they came out(Lost World and Boom) and both games ended up flopping, and I was very critical of why that was. For a second, I really thought Boom was the answer, but Knuckles Hulk like design was a red flag, I liked the trailer, then we started getting into how the cartoon would be like and it just tanked from there.Aside from classic Sonic showing up for whatever plot device they'll pull out of their ass, unless it's a good time traveling story like one of my guys suggested it could be, there's still no reason why the other characters can't show up. Nobody but the same internet trolls hates on them. We also don't know who the writers are, which have been a big deal break for a lot of people, but regardless of how it comes out, if this game is at least as balanced as generations(at least on the surface), it may be the 2nd 3D modern title to actually be successful, just by how this looks, since most people aren't spending 40-60$ on childish games.
So for now, all we have is this dark looking trailer to go on. I know folks might think I should be happy because it looks dark, but I was writing something on that issue of dark/serious content but hadn't finished it yet cause I'm lazy, lol, but yeah, it's more complicated then that. One thing I will say though, I don't give a shit about gameplay quality right now. Many games play well but only a select few make big numbers, let alone become popular. Look at both Battleborn and Overwatch. 2 good games recently and only Overwatch sold nearly 2 million(Sonic numbers), and Battleborn, which I feel is much better, did even worse.
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The name of this game has been revealed. It's Sonic Forces.
The actual gameplay footage was sadly quite blurry, but from what I could make out of it, it was promising. I just hope they don't do a heel-turn on us and go down the route that IS NOT good for Sonic.
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Found out yesterday but didn't get around to memeing it. I've also seen the footage, and despite being blurry, it's going to be the same 2.5D gameplay that got old with Generations. Aside from what may be a better shift in tone, the only thing I see might be worth looking forward to is what the new character and gameplay could bring.
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And then they had to shoehorn in that goddamned Green Hill Zone again, and now my expectations for it have been reduced.
Though from the silhouette of the new character, at least the new guy isn't Boom Sonic, like some of my friends theorized it would be.
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Wreck it ralph set the tone for what sonic should be like. an engaging adventure with colorful worlds, engaging characters, lots of witty jokes and a good chunk of drama, action, and a small dollop of grittiness. It should be SLIGHTLY less gritty than star wars or harry potter at it's darkest. Just slightly. Like, they shouldn't show a character being burned alive in lava screaming in agony, or a snake swallowing someone, but maybe one of the main protagonists gets a fairly gory injury like a lost limb, or one of the characters dies off-screen in a gory way that is implied rather than shown. I think at a stretch, that could be sonic at it's darkest. Any edgier and it would just be weird.
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The Ninja Turtle movies do a lot better job aside from colorful worlds, which Sonic wasn't always that colorful anyway, so parts are darker then others. Their geared more towards action then being colorful and witty.
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"Alienated too many people" Are you refuring to the adventure fans?
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I'm referring to the fact that Sonic sales have been getting lower in recent years, it only points to a considerable amount of people being alienated no matter what group they are in.
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Β Β Β Β Β Β -LETS ALL PRAY SEGA TAKES THEIR TIME WITH THIS NEW GAME-
Β Β Β Β Β Β Β And puts a lot of effort into it -so it has good graphics and a good story...
gotta slow down sega! your not do it! or else you getΒ Β games with bad control...and you lose fans... so sega...Cum on step it up!!! Do good!
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Sorry but none of that is accurate. Most of the 3D Sonic games were rushed and only 06 was the one that really turned out badly, and that game was still more successful then the ones people claim saved the franchise.
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yeah, i know that. What i mean't to say is: i hope they don't mess up again, but personally, all of the games, are actually quite good ^_^ and i actually enjoyed 06, -it was just hard to controll. i think they learned their lesson about the whole controlling ussue, But i loved playing it even with the issues. i'm just glad there are even new games being released. i'm so psyched! overall, i love them all! Β + they have some pretty good storylines, they're so creative!, yes?
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I found 06 controls to be better then these boost, wannabe 3D games, and the new games since after Black Knight are not much to write home about, and Generations being the only 1 to go over 3 million in sales while the next two flopped. Unless you're talking about games before Colors, the story comment hardly applies to them.
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Eh, guess i shan't argue.
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meh, I'm pretty jaded of this shit. I want Sonic to have good games, it's the fact that Sonic Team has blatantly favoring an audience who doesn't even like him over everyone else, the sale getting lower and lower and the existence of Boom proves it.
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It's only been about a week and I'm already going nuts waiting for the next trailer.
As of right now, there just isn't enough information with which to develop a confident prediction -_-
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Yea, I've been skeptical about all Sonic things recently. I do like the HD of the commercial tho! It makes Sonic look so rad like in unleashed!
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I didn't really care too much about Sonic Mania since it just look like a nostalgia cash grab (yeah I said it) I was more focus on Project Sonic 2017 I do like how dark the game is getting, but I have to remember that Sonic Generations, Sonic Lost World, and Sonic Boom had serious dark teaser trailers, but the final product was anything but. Also I already called Sega out for having Classic Sonic show up for no reason so unless they can explain WHY he's here than it just look like Sega is playing this safe.Β
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People rely too much on standards. There I said it.
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And they act like they gamers. lol
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Well recently I've witnessed people condemning games the moment they're announced and going as far as creating petitions to have them cancelled just because they aren't the kind of games they wanted Nintendo to make and have already decided the games are terrible even though the games haven't been released yet. And this is what I was talking about, they aren't willing to give the games a chance and will likely be unwilling to enjoy them just because they think it won't live up to their standards. Heck one guy I talked to said it doesn't matter if the game (the two games are separate series and they were only concerned about the one) is good because it still isn't what they asked for. That's just stupid.
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That isn't stupid. Nobody just goes out and plays games all willi nilly and aren't going to, they are going to play the games they want, and Nintendo barely ever makes the games people want. It's not the customer job to "give the game a chance", the customers are the ones keeping Nintendo and these companies money coming in. Also keep in mind you're talking to a guy who did the exact same thing for the last 2 Sonic games. People got mad at me, and others, for not giving them a chance because they weren't the ones we wanted.
Guess what happened? They were the 2 worst selling Sonic games in a row. So, sorry, but I don't believe the anti-consumer opinion that we need to give games we don't want a chance, because if the company WE PAY don't want to, we will give our money to someone else, and that's just business, we aren't here to service them.
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You obviously understand as much he does. Videogames aren't made based on what people ask for they're made based on what the developers think people will enjoy. The problem is that people only care about what they want and are more willing to condemn a game then play something different and that is wrong. Do you really think it was like this back when videogames were first introduced to the world? No. People need to accept that they can't always have what they want. They're not the ones making the games so it's not up to them. The quality of a game is not determined by the quality of its predecessor and people need to accept that.
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You seem to not understand if games weren't what people wanted, they wouldn't have played them. Of course dev are going to make games they wanna make, but that doesn't mean there shouldn't be a priority to give PAYING CUSTOMERS what they want. Nobody asked for Pac-Man, but it was accepted because people actually wanted to play it, same as Mario, Sonic, Crash, and many games so on, and the one people didn't want to play or not enough, got left in the dust, sadly it happened to a lot of good games.
Other then that, keep in mind that Nintendo has been around for how many years now? They have a library of IP's that people want, but drive them away because they "make what they want" or just don't give them what they want. You can cling to the anti-consumer belief if you want to but that's not how things are, and that's what you need to accept. The companies are here for us, they serve us, if they don't want to serve us, they lose they're money, plain and simple. It's our hard earned money after all, we PAy for these games, so it's up to us by default. What you seem to believe is what only corporate slave believe, and the reason Nintendo has been losing sales EVERY GENERATION except the Wii due to appealing to everyone and not the certain few who'll throw money at them just for making a game, then the WiiU came out and did worse then the gamecube.
Case in point, yeah, I guess I do understand as much as that guy: If a company doesn't make the games I want to play, regardless if asked or not, then I'll take my business elsewhere. Nintendo has been around for too damn long for them, or you, to act entitled to what they want.
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I know it's more of a teaser but my problem was how.....secluded and vague it was. Conveyance is very important even if it isn't a full fledged trailer but I felt I didn't get enough to garner interest or have a starting discussion about. It didn't convey much of anything besides a dusky looking environment which gives the impression of maybe a dark tone.But Classic Sonic is back.........yay?Β
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I'm very skeptical about this trailer, but with this and Sonic Mania, SEGA now has my attention.
Let's hope they DON'T screw this up.
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I feel the same way. It looks decent, but as a Giant talking red and blue truck has taught us all, there's more than meets the eye. If there's anything I'm looking forward to with Sonic 2017, it's that HOPEFULLY the same control scheme that was utilized in the first Sonic Generations is reused, since it already looks like a confirmed "Sonic Generations 2."
The main thing that concerns me is that I hope Pontac and Graff's poisonous writing is kept away from this, or that they at least pull their heads out of their asses and actually take this more seriously than they've ever been, considering this is what we're gonna get for Sonic's 25th. Neither of them have attempted anything that serious with Sonic as this trailer suggests, save for like, a quarter of Lost World, but its hard to get invested into its story when its bogged down with garbage like Sonic and Eggman's frenemy bantering, Sonic's idiocy for most of the story, and Knuckles and Amy's uselessness to the overall story. Plus, Sonic Generations didn't really seem like the kind of story that needed an extension, unlike the pre-Unleashed games where each character has a little bit of growth in characterization with each game, Generations was more or less just a really grand clipshow of Sonic's past. Nothing more, nothing less. I guess only time will tell, but considering Sonic's track record since Colors (in storytelling that is,) I too can't help but feel too skeptical myself...
At least we have little to worry about with Sonic Mania, right?
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It's not Gen 2, they confirmed that it a different game, but, with elements similar to Gen.
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The question I ask myself is mainly where are Silver, Shadow or Knuckles in the history?Β
In generation they had been turned into a statue , but this time it will be the explanation for the spread of adventure and put the 2 Sonic in main characters again?
I have the strange feeling that SEGA in response to the desire of fans who wanted to see another character that the blue hedgehog to honor, decided to make us new adventures but with classic Sonic and modern Sonic.Β If this is really what they do ... thank but no thank
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I am also very skeptical about this trailer. I mean ... Generation 2? Seriously?
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I know right?
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I know people keep saying it isn't because Izuka claimed it isn't, but devs can claim anything, and given Sega's track record, it most likely will be a spiritual successor dude to boosting, mostly 2D gameplay with restrictive 3D parts, and classic Sonic. Aside from a shallow list of past stages, that's all generations was.
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Well, I hope it's true. But all the same skepticism for a long time does not leave me.
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I'M skeptical because of the classic sonic gimmick. We've had enough of him lately.
Doesn't surprise me that SEGA still wants to cater to the classic nostalgia brats. 
Do I want Shadow and Silver and the rest of the characters to have a purpose and be playable? FUCK YES.
Do I want Pontac and Graff to write the game? FUCK NO.
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The worst part of Classic Sonic being in Sonic 2017 is they are already doing Sonic Mania.Β
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Yeah I KNEW that.
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Yeah that classic nostalgia only works on a few certain people though. Generations didn't sell too much better then Unleashed and it had the warehog and no nostalgia pandering.
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I hope this Sonic Resistance game is better than those Sonic Boom games that Sega has been releasing so Sega should understand the fact, no more Sonic Boom games and give the fans what they want.
Also, I don't mind a spin-off game series based around the Archie Comics series.
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Yeah...I'm anticipating a Sonic Unleashed situation where the opening has tons of action but the game...not so much.
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I feel ya, though it's a step above Lost World and Colors. If not Unleashed, I'm picturing a Rise of Lyric situation where the story seems decent but still has stupid dialogue, Lyric and Metal Sonic being the only two who seemed legit in that game as far as I saw.
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You can say that again.
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Still looks cooler than Sonic Mania.
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Honestly I think Sonic mania is the dopest looking 2D Sonic game since CD and Knuckles, aside from skipping the middle man and just putting in Green Hill zone, and the guy behind the project being Nintarded.
(He explains that itβs a βpretty tough taskβ for Sonic to be as big a game like Grand Theft Auto. However, he states that with the βright mindset behind itβ, Sonic still has the capability to be as great as βany high-quality platformer Nintendo is currently putting outβ.β)
-Christian Whitehead
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I see, BTW what does Nintarded mean?
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Retarded Nintendo fanboys. Given that even real Nintendo fans hate them to, my words are well founded.
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I think he's referring to those "blinded by nostalgia brats".
Or the ones who can't handle dark content because it "tries too hard to be cool".
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