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Hello everyone. Just thought I'd post an alternate image to the Planetary Conquest fight Orks vs. Zerg. While I like the original I made (a horde of Orks on one side, a massive Zerg on the other), over time I began to feel that it didn't quite capture the spirit of two diverse swarm races. So I made this second image. You be the judge of which is better, though honestly I rather like both.Zerg: A race of arthropods working under a a hive mind, the Zerg Swarm strive for genetic perfection by assimilating "worthy" races into their own, creating numerous strains of Zerg. The Swarm have no need for technology, choosing instead to assimilate other species' traits by directed mutation in order to match such technology. Multiplying faster then most any other race in existence, Zerg have crushed many armies under the power of sheer numbers alone. Under the rule of their Queen of Blades, Sarah Kerrigan, the Zerg have grown into a fierce, nearly unstoppable force of destruction.
Orks: Also known as the green-skins; this crude, barbaric and war-loving race is vast in size and simple in it's desires. All any Ork wants to do is fight. And fight. AND FIGHT! Blastin' and Bombin' and Shootin' away as they crump the offa races beneath their mighty boot. Heck, Orks enjoying killing other Orks as much as they do anyone else. Any fight is a good fight in an Orks eyes. It has been speculated that were the Orks ever to unite as a single racial entity, they would undoubtedly crush any opposition that would dare to stand against such a tsunami of green muscle.
Now these two armies, famous for their violent tendencies and astoundingly vast armies will pit their awesome might against each other. Will da Ork Boyz break under the siege of the legendary Zerg Rush? Will the Swarm be swatted down by the sheer might of the WAAAGH? I cannot say for sure, but I do know one thing...
Soon the war will begin. What side will you stand with?
*(In case you are unfamiliar with them, Orks, for whatever reason, speak with a British cockney accent. I wrote their description with that accent in mind.)
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Part 1: CIS vs. Tyranids: [link]
Part 2: UNSC vs. Arachnids: [link]
Part 3: Tau Empire vs. Protoss Protectorate: [link]
Part 4: Chimera vs. Yeerks: [link]
Part 5: Orks vs. Zerg: You Are Here
Part 6: Dark Eldar vs. The Flood: [link]
Part 7: Cycloids vs. Mental's Horde: [link]
Part 8: Citadel Forces/System Alliance vs. Covenant Empire: [link]
Part 9: Eldar vs. Reapers: [link]
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Har! WE STILL WIN DIS WUN CUZ NO MATTA OW MANY UV US DEY KILL, DERE'Z ALWAYZ MORE OF UZ!!!!Β
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They would just slaughter each other endlessly.
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The longer you fight , the more Orkz show up. The longer you fight the Orkz become stronger. The longer you fight them the more they start Looting and putting your own weapons against you. (no matter what it is, it will still work, if enough Orkz think something is true, like that red planes go faster, it will become a fact making Ork equipment very crude but still devastatingly effective.)
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If I remember correctly, fungi spores don't hold up very good when drowning in acid (from banelings). So first point doesn't stand up.
The other points are valid tho
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Wut's dis? Gribblies actin' wierd? Won't help em none!
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I honestly have no idea who would win, but this would be so much awesome.
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Orks, frist they are stronger and also they have tech that should allow them to beat the Zerg.
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I'd love to see the orks try and gun down the Omegalisk or the leviathan or hell just every single zerg rush ever!
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And the funny part is that the orks can LOOT BOTH OF THEM!
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Aw look at the blizz-cunt! So cute how he thinks his little tyranid knock off is stronger then Orks!Β
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orkos No Se Comparan, conosco Ambos Universos, y de es Cada Vez Que veo Una comparacion de Como Zerg vs tiranidos, Zerg vs orkos, terran vs Astartes, es de ver de como pokemon (universo de StarCraft) vs DC Comics (Warhammer 40k).
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Average Zerg swarm vs. average Ork WAAAGH!
Hm...tough. Zerg might actually have the edge, there. Don't they have something that could kill off the ork spores on a microscopic level?
Large Zerg swarm vs. a powerful Ork WAAAGH! (Ghazghkull, The Beast, etc.)Β
Gotta give that one to the orks. The sheer power of a high-end warboss ALONE is incredible. Hell, the Imperium's finest could barely do anything but annoy Ghaz, and that dang Goff seems to live through ANYTHING thrown at him.
Zerg race vs. Ork race
Epic fight, but uniting all the orks under a single warboss (again, likely Ghazzy) would probably prove too much for the Zerg to handle. Hell, with all the orks believing in Ghazghkull, he'd be able to shrug off anything thrown at him. "WAAAGH! proffit gunna make dat buggy gurl go sqwash!" and other such beliefs would become reality.
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The Zerg are divided into formations called broods. Each brood is lead by a Broodmother. the size for each brood is different based on the tactics and strategies used by the commanding Broodmother. The greatest strength of the Zerg is their ability to steal the Essence of other species and make it their own. Essentially they take take strengths of others and make it their own.
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The Nids tried that while fighting the Orks and it turned out that Ork genetics were insanly hard to implement into the swarm. In fact as far as i know they couldn't use most of it at all.
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No contest tyranids would win, the zerg fight for the contol of one sector, the nids have consumed Multiple galaxies
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All things considered, it'd be a fun as hell fight to watch but the Greenskins would win out in the end.
They reproduce by fungus, and the more Orks that die means the more Orks come back up. Eventually, the Zerg would be overwhelmed.
Their gesalt psychic field would end up making things really weird for the Zerg if they ever bring da Weirdboyz out.
Zerg flyers wouldn't exactly be much of a problem if the Ork warband favoured shootiness. Accuracy would be compensated for by sheer rate of fire.
The Zerg likely would put in vast casualties, but the simple fact would be that the Greenskins do not care about casualties. And while the deaths of Kerrigan and/or the Brood Queens (I forget the name) would make sure the swarm all but collapses, there is endless competition and jockeying for position within the Ork Horde, and that's a contest measured by pure ability.
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The Orks and the Tyranids can fight for decades without one side being able to defeat the other.
The Tyranids are superior to the Zerg.
The Orks win against the Zerg.
Alternatively, the Imperium is superior to the Terrans, and the Terrans can defeat the Zerg.
The Orks can defeat the Imperium.
The Orks win against the Zerg.
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Please stop I am reading your posts and your potentially dumbing down everyone who reads them with your fanboyism.Β
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u certainlly dont know the orks weaponry, right?
search aboutΒ kill kroozers and pulsa rokkit and then u can back and assume the zerg defeat
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a single ork slugga can kill a lot of zerglings, orks can lose a limb and then use it as a weapon to keep fighting, they can even lose his heads and still keep fighting, to kill an ork u need to literally blow his body
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this was caused by A SINGLE spore landing.
srsly were talkin about giant green beasts that can swarm even better than the zerg race (the bigger advantage zerg have against they enemies) and the lowest ork (slugga boy) can individually beat almost any zerg unit, plus they got way better weaponry and are immune to psychic/psionic things
and we cannot forget that the longer an ork lives, the bigger/stronger/smarter he gets, if the war goes on like for years orks will have more and more warbosses and nobs
orks can make advanced technology such as teleporters, force fields, lightning guns, and fusion bombs out of iron ore and scrap
the most basic ork weapon (ork choppa) has around 8 kilos, a single swing could crush 10+ zerglings easily
oh and just to make it clear about u guys talkin about "zerg could use the ork dna blablabla":
zerg wont be able to Zergify Orks, since the squigs were originally creation of Tyranids from Ork DNA, but when they seen orks they decided they would be rather loyal to Orks than Tyranids
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a little quote about orks:
The Orks plague the galaxy from the end to end with their ceaseless warring and strife. They are a race rooted so deeply in war that peace is utterly incomprehensible to them. They cannot be bargained with or bought save with weapons that they will inevitable turn against those who tried to bribe them. I pray with all my faith that some great catastrophe will annihilate them but I fear that ultimately it is they, not we, who shall rule the galaxy."
Imperial High Lord Xanthias
so, in a universe that is WAY MORE larger and have much more deadly races than koprulu sector (space marines, eldars, tyranids, tau, necrons etc) the orks are feared by every other race, while in sc's universe the zerg always get stomped by terrans, this must be a joke
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You seem to have no idea that Terran victories over the Zerg are extremely rare and in this goes for the Protoss as well. In their conquests the Zerg have been nigh unstopable untill the plot comes barging in.
And your quote has no 'target' and doesn't really proove anything. If the Zerg were set in 40K they would likely become a large threat if it wasn't for their lack of good space combat capabilities or feats by which to go by.
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one single ork could kill like 100+ zergs, some orks are really old and experienced in battles, the old they get, the bigger, stronger and deadly they are
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If we are talking guys like Warbosses, then it could happen (chances of taking a spike to the head from some random Hydralisk are still pretty good though) but never with normal orks. You seem to think of them as some kind of unstopable killing machines when simple Guardsmen have killed Orks in CQC (though the odds aren't normaly in their favour) and Zerg are physicly and probably mentaly superior to normal people.They are, after all, killing machines that constantly strive for perfection.
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so, orks stomped tyranids (wich are much more deadly than zergs) and ppl still saying zergs would win?
come on guys, i know that there is prob more zergs fans because starcraft is more popular and this kind of stuff but use your brains, orks are enormous, something like 3 to 4 meters and warbosses are even larger, plus they got insane regeneration and have much larger numbers than zergs, THE GREEN TIDE!
they also have tech and can blow everything up. plus they can use flamethrowers (wich is really deadly for zergs) AND they can YES be really tactical and organized
while zerg fights terrans the orks fight SPACE MARINES! (and i believe everybody here would agree that space marines > terrans) aaand to mention orks psychic power who can literally simply blow the overmind up or kerrigan if they only simply believe on it, orks would be stomped in the beggining till they start to know zerg, then they would win with no bigger problems
oh, and just to say:
Ghazghkull Mag Uruk Thraka > Kerrigan
and just to say [2]:
ive been on grandmaster league playing zerg in 2012, YES i know much about starcraft's lore and zergs
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The Orks haven't ''stomped'' Tyranids. They are still currently fighting in an Ork held sector (forgot it's name) and the Orks have only kept up with the Nids because they keep getting more and more Orks from across the galaxy. If they were given a specific number of forces they would no doubt lose. It's also a good thing the Nids take more time to make more troops. (consume biomass, then return back to Hive Ships in orbit, then dissolve in Spawning Pools and finaly go back to the battlefield) Zerg simply spawn new ones en mass without any need for biomass and such.
By Death Battle rules the Orks aren't going to have infinite numbers, just what they can get from spores (which take days-months to mature into Orks) and backup from space (at 250K max I think). Zerg can sustain high casualties and easily replenish them in mere minutes, are actualy more than a match for Orks 1 on 1 and use their brains instead of blindly chargin in.
I don't recall Ghazghkull being able to kill entire small armies with his mind. I haven't read any Starcraft novels but from what I know Kerrigan is NOT someone you want to piss off.
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"Zerg can sustain high casualties and easily replenish them in mere minutes"
What? In minutes? Did you take this time period from the videogame? If so, then single warboss can infinetely keep pretty solid number of killy and stompy boyz simply by shouting "WAAAAAAAAGH" every 20 seconds.Β
"I don't recall Ghazghkull being able to kill entire small armies with his mind." He's able to kill entire small armies with his power klaw and twin linked shoota. In addition, he's a god of the invulnerability.
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As silly as it sounds Kerrigan's infinite respawn ability is canon according to a Blizzard interview. So she could die 20 times and kill Ghazzy on the 21st, and it would be a net gain for the Zerg.Β
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No, I believe that is actualy cannon time. If not that then at least in hours. Still much faster than Orks.
And Kerrigan can kill entire armies with her mind. Not to mention her supernatural traits.
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I go for orcs, only because they're my favorite out of the two, plus I love their quotes and their bad ass leader gorgutz
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Orcs? 'Oose dat? DEYZ CALLED DA ORKS, YA GIT! GET YER C'S AND K'S 'RITE!
I.e - Warhammer 40,000 Orks are spelled with a K, not a C. C is pansy orcs from fantasy franchises.
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Infestation spores. Orks have been successfully assimilated. Next planet.
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The Zerg are just nerfed Tyranids, and Orks can be toe-to-toe with Tyranids.
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Sure, the orks can go toe to toe with tyranid bioforms, but the tyranids don't have the spore and virus based infestation method. It becomes even more effective when it combines with the ork's spore based reproduction, basically bypassing the need for a hive on the surface, and since the first phase of a zerg invasion is the release of spores into the atmosphere, and that the tyranid carnifex is based on ork genes, and the zerg virus is described as hypercharging a species' evolutionary matrix... the tyranids would want to eat the orks, but the zerg would turn them into zerg too, and each infested ork would constantly spawn more infested orks. So on planetary scale, slowly, but surely, the zerg would win. On larger scale, Starcraft takes place in a relatively small place of the galaxy, so it woud have to be extrapolated for comparison, but they have the mobility advantage, because of hyperspace travel is more accurate and safe and faster than warp travel. Not to mention if they find a substantial energy source, they can do the reincarnation shtick.
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The Carnifex isn't based on Ork DNA. Nothing in the lore that I can find says it is. And it was encountered during the first engagement with Tyranids on Tyran, unless the Hive Fleet Behemoth had encountered Orks before coming to the Milky Way, which seems unlikely.
I did forget to take into account the Zerg's tendency to infest things. It would probably even the playing field a lot.
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If i recall correctly didn't it say in a 40k fluff that orks can't be infected by nyds, that their DNA can't be used to make hybrids and the same applies for eldar? and according to the warhammer 40kΒ Β wikiΒ Β kroot can consume and use orkΒ DNA but if they eat too much of it they will turn to orks(they will still retain some physical appearance to kroots but they would have the mind of an ork) they also have a hard time controlling their ork side and can only do so due to their sentience since orks keep a lot of their knowledge and instincts on their genetic memory or whatever people call it you know the reason why odd boyz exist.So i suppose if the zerg used ork DNA which is highly unlikely they can assimilate it the zerg with the ork DNA would most likely end up joining the orks or been feral orks since orks are immune to physic powers creatures with their DNA won't be able to be part of the swarm or the nyds.
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I don't remember where I read that on rumor level the carnifex contains ork DNA, the the zoanthrope eldar DNA and the warrior space marine DNA. Probably in-game flavor lore in one of the Dawn of War series, since it ended with the latter being considered heresy. Also the tyranids visited the galaxy previously, see the kraken or the cathacan devil for examples, both are thought to be leftover species from an earlier hive fleet, and if it didn't contain then, it surely does now.
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I looked it up a bit further.
There were Zoanthropes, Warriors, etc. long before the Hive Fleets came to the Milky Way. But when they did and encountered Eldar and Space Marines, they took genetic traits from these and incorporated them into the swarm. Zoanthropes were improved with better psychic potential from the Eldar, and Tyrant Guard developed fused ribcages and Warriors were probably all-round upgraded as well using Space Marine genes.
And while it's speculated that Catachan Devils (And the Brainleaves) are the remnants of an ancient Tyranid Hive Fleet, I doubt that this Hive Fleet could devour Eldar and send their genes between galaxies to other Hive Fleets. So it seems a bit unlikely that the Catachan Devil's ancestors had anything to do with it.
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Well, if you think about it, what do we know about the tyranids exactly? Only their warmachine, so to speak, and that they came from outside the galaxy. It should be noted that subsequent hivefleets learned fro their predecessors. The first came in a single spearhead, the next branched out to divide opposition, and the next from above the galaxy's plane, to be impossible to detect and be able to strike where it wants. Who knows what they are doing out there beyond dark space.
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Probably eating other galaxies.
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For all we know, ours could be the last galaxy they didn't consume yet.
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Knowing the grimdark nature of 40k, that's certainly a possibility.
I don't think that the Tyranids have eaten everything else, but that they've been moving towards the Milky Way ever since the Astronomican was enabled. It's often suggested in the canon that it attracts the Tyranids like moths to a flame, so turning it off might get the Hive Fleets to change course. But then the Imperium couldn't reliably travel through the Warp anymore.
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They already know how full of biomass the galaxy is, so it wouldn't stop them in my opinion. Β The shutting down of the astronomican is actually only a matter of time, as the Golden Throne is breaking down and the Emperor is dieing. On the positive side, he will probably ascend to actual godhood. But if Games Workshop would go there, it wouldn't be simply jumping the shark, it would be jumping the megalodon with lasers on it's head. Motion sensing lasers.
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Zerg win due to the simple fact of easy troop replacement and they can probably assimilate the Orks and become even harder to kill.
Plus they are master strategists and the Orks.......well they just attack like the idiots they are.
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Da Boyz are masters strategists too so they will outsmart the Hive right from the start.
Their best plan did work quit good in your case.
"Never let an outsider know that we have a cunning masterplan"
And if the Zerg get Kerrigan as overall Generall then it's only fair that the Orks will bring Ghazghkull Mag Uruk Thraka, the Prophet of the Waaagh!, the Beast of Armaggeddon to lead their forces. Just for the count, Ghazghkull did not invade Armaggeddon once but twice and only got to a stalemate both times 'caus Yarrick was the only one that could match the wits of the Waaghboss. Once Yarrick was a POW to Ghazghkull but he orderd his nemesis to be released 'caus he thought that attacking Armaggeddon without Yarrick commanding the defending forces would not be a fight worth fighting.
Well sure the Zerg have some units that work against large mobs of Boyz. But those units will fall pray to Lootaz and/or Tankbustaz (Their goes your Ultralisk in tiny bits and pieces) and against hords of zerglings the Waaagh! will send his Burner Boyz or just crush them under the steamrollers mounted to their War Truks, Battlewagons and Super Heavy Units.
For the Creep: It is the Zergs biggest advantage but also their primary weakness, since it can only grow with Zerg structurs close by so once those buildings blow up (with Commandoz sneaking around this can happen quit fat and often) the Creep will disappear and i think that Zerg Larvas should be part of a healthy Squig diet.
My vote clearly goes to the biggest, meanest, most cunning and greenest of them all. Da WAAAAAAGHHH!!!!
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