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Published: 2018-02-20 19:29:47 +0000 UTC; Views: 1381; Favourites: 16; Downloads: 0
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Look, to all those saying "why you guys so doom and gloom about the IDW comic when it hasn't even come out yet", after that interview with Ian, we have every right to do so, and I know I've brought that up a lot, but it's true. What Ian said in that interview for game informer pretty much shot himself in the foot, and probably turned off a lot of fans.See, this is why I wish Archie had never hired Ian. They chose a fan over a creator, and when you do that, we get stuff like this. You can call me a Penders fan boy all you want, but to his credit, at least when he was writing the comic, he was world building and giving it more depth. What did Ian Flynn do? Pretty much just went off of that, which was fine and all until the reboot happened and it totally fucked him over.
All's I have to say is, when the IDW comic sales don't do so hot, and Flynn gets removed from the comic, don't go on twitter crying about how unfair it is or begin upset at IDW. You brought this all on yourselves, and now karma has finally caught up with you...
Pretty soon we're not even gonna have a sonic comic because of shit like this.
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After reading the article I have to say we haven't gotten to the results just yet we'll have to see when the comics actually become readable to the viewers. I won't draw conclusions until I can see one but that doesn't mean there isn't skepticism that should be noted.
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Like I’m sorry I’m jumping the gun grand, but like I said, this is what happens when you hire fans before creators. This is Steven universe all over
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I don't think it's a case of that as look at Mania a game made by fans that turned out successful.
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We have no sells numbers to know of it were successful, even if it was, it's a small digital game, it doesn't even need as much sells as you average AAA game to be successful. In that same instance, Sonic 4 was also successful, all that crying people did over it doesn't effect that.
Far as with Flynn, I never subscribed to the idea that him being a fan fic writer was a bad thing nor should it, it laterally has nothing to do with the comics unless he made them into his personal fanfic, regardless if he did or not, he did a good job for almost a decade from the moment he started till reboot started falling off for more reasons then writing.
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The thing is though is experience. Does Ian have enough writing experience? Cause it seems he doesn’t according to the reboot. Plus how IDW is turning out this is his personal fan fic
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The problem with the Reboot is his hands were tied by Sega up to then Sega was so lack that they did not even care till Pender sue then they care about the comic.
Pender claim he was under the same limits yet he never obey them. Ian obey the limits after he was force to.
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It’s called challenging ideas and mandates. Also I’m pretty sure those mandates weren’t that real with only a few rule exceptions.
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Pender even said they are real. He was just given more freedom.
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Even so I don't see any reason why Flynn could or should have challenged them. If it's to make the comic interesting and make sales go up then he should have gone for it. Begin a teachers pet isn't always a good thing.
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How do you expect him to challenge the Mandates when literally everything he writes that goes against them is instantly rejected.
Even the thick head of Penders couldn't to crap when Sega forces Sally to live and the than Editor for the Sonic comic forces Shadow into Mobius x Years latter. That he was this powerless again the raising mandates was even part of the reason why Penders quit.
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Penders only did that because he thought the comic was going to end, once he got the clear that it was going to continue, he let Sally live. Rising mandates weren't really the reason he quit, he was working on the sonic movie at the time as well, and what rising mandates? Ian seemed to not notice them because he still shipped Sally and Sonic along with had other ships go on as well, but what do I know? I apparently don't make up good arguments.
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At the time Penders quit did Sega started to limit a few more Character like Nega and Black Doom (even for his own cameo did Ian need to ask for permission from Sega) and as I already said did the in house editors started to force thing on the comic like Shadow in Mobius X years latter. And Sega mandates did start to grow from there for example did Ian to keep Shard needed Ian to exploit a loop hole (namely that when Metal Sonic first appeared in the comics was he called Mecha Sonic)because sega enforced a only 1 metal Sonic rule. And the mandates got even tighter since Penders copyrighting of Characters because to prevent something like this to happen again did Sega got a lot more controlling over the book (hence the no Romance between Sega Characters rule from the Reboot)
Also why was Penders working on a sonic Movie when Sega didn't green light it?
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It may not sound strange to you, but you have to understand that you're saying the man doesn't have good writing experience, only after his 6 to 7 years of writing experince who had gained prior to the reboot.
If you're going to criticize the man, do it in a way that makes sense, don't wait for him to do something you dislike and then decide he's got no experience.
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He’s been doing stuff I haven’t been liking for a while now though, letting ego go to his head and having a “I can do no wrong” mindset
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So he's a bad writer only after years of doing a good job because of that. That's just personal issues man, regardless of if you're to take issue with him or not, it's just not logical.
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"We have no sells numbers to know of it were successful, even if it was, it's a small digital game, it doesn't even need as much sells as you average AAA game to be successful. In that same instance, Sonic 4 was also successful, all that crying people did over it doesn't effect that."
I suppose you're right about that
"Far as with Flynn, I never subscribed to the idea that him being a fan fic writer was a bad thing nor should it, it laterally has nothing to do with the comics unless he made them into his personal fanfic, regardless if he did or not, he did a good job for almost a decade from the moment he started till reboot started falling off for more reasons then writing."
Yup that's kind of how I view it. Him being a fan writer isn't indicative of anything but I think some people try to see it as an issue because he was able to work at such a platform like Archie and Idw. I don't agree with it but that's my speculation as to why some bring it up so much as a detriment.
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