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Soviet Air Force MiG-25"Foxbat" armed with 4 "Anab" missiles of both beam riding and infrared seeking types,with the North American XB-70 Valkryie trisonic bomber that the Foxbat was originally intended to intercept and destroy. in the end,the U.S. "destroyed" the B-70 itself with a few strokes of a pen and a rubber stamp on a few pieces of paper...[PROJECT CANCELLED]Related content
Comments: 82
putrick In reply to TomCatDriver [2013-06-03 08:36:01 +0000 UTC]
The models, the picture and both.
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TomCatDriver In reply to putrick [2013-07-24 10:31:52 +0000 UTC]
next...."Meatbox" vs. "Doodlebug"......
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TaralWayne [2013-04-28 16:13:24 +0000 UTC]
Beautiful aircraft, the Valkyrie, despite its likely vulnerability to high altitude interception. Think of what it might have been if updated. New, 25,000 lb. thrust engines, some modifications to improve stealthiness and cruise missile launching capability would have made it a different bird, I think.
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TomCatDriver In reply to TaralWayne [2013-04-28 18:40:55 +0000 UTC]
hopeless...obsolete before it even flew. too costly as well.
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TomCatDriver In reply to TaralWayne [2013-05-20 09:44:13 +0000 UTC]
a whole new ballgame after 1960.....
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TaralWayne In reply to TomCatDriver [2013-05-21 01:54:21 +0000 UTC]
If we had had any internet billionaires, maybe one could have bailed out the program by converting the XB-70 design into an SST? Then booking passage on the Concorde would have looked cheap by comparison.
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TomCatDriver In reply to TaralWayne [2013-05-22 09:38:14 +0000 UTC]
never would have worked,at least not profitably. it would have eaten a lot of fuel,parts and people.
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TaralWayne In reply to TomCatDriver [2013-05-23 07:39:38 +0000 UTC]
Yeah, sure would. And it would have all been for naught when the early enviro-freaks started claiming that SSTs would poison the atmosphere with X-rays, turn clouds green and make it rain speghettios.
With today's jet engines, though, it might have been somewhat more doable.
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TomCatDriver In reply to TaralWayne [2013-06-27 10:20:08 +0000 UTC]
another one of their silly arguments against SST,s was about sonic booms killing unborn babies...hmmmmm...since 1947? yeah,ok...
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TaralWayne In reply to TomCatDriver [2013-06-28 06:07:39 +0000 UTC]
I only heard a sonic boom for the first time a few years ago, I think. I was in LA, staying at Schirm's joint, and was sleeping late I think. Then there was a muffled boom right above the roof. I figured it out, but for a few seconds it was puzzling. Never heard one in Toronto. We only have one sizable military airbase near the city, and it's about 150 miles east. Military jets almost never fly over, not at any speed anyway.
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TomCatDriver In reply to TaralWayne [2013-07-01 09:40:23 +0000 UTC]
heard and made quite a few in my time!
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Ronin201 [2013-02-10 15:37:31 +0000 UTC]
I remember going to the USAF Museum in Ohio and seeing the Valkyrie at the experimental hangar. I was a little young to fully understand it off the bat, but know I think "Wow, I saw the only example of that jet that remains". It was something else
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TomCatDriver In reply to Ronin201 [2013-03-27 10:02:29 +0000 UTC]
a rather expensive exhibit,polished to perfection and never to fly again...
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plumpener [2009-05-29 23:29:06 +0000 UTC]
I remeber the starfighter pilot that got too close to one of the two Valkyrie prototypes and skip crashed across tthe top if it's right vertical stabilizer fin and killed everbody! I also remember the captured Foxbat that we sent back the the Russians in about 30 different crates! It's top war emergency speed could only be maintained for several minutes, and the avionics were so primitive there they were still using vaacuum tubes in the cockpit! I used to play a wargame called Foxbat and Phantom, and shoot the damn things down all the time.
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TomCatDriver In reply to plumpener [2009-05-31 00:07:55 +0000 UTC]
Foxbat and Phantom....i think that game was from the 70s! vacuum-tubes do have a few advantages,such as not being susceptible to EMP...!but the MiG-25 wasn,t really the Big Bad Superfighter that everybody had believed it to be for so many years.
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plumpener In reply to TomCatDriver [2009-05-31 01:09:57 +0000 UTC]
True, it wasn't, yes, an inheritance from my older brothers left behind in a closet for me to enjoy!
I was an avid wargamer in highschool, Chess was my favorite though!
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TomCatDriver In reply to plumpener [2009-06-03 17:28:13 +0000 UTC]
just cause a game,s a bit older,doesn,t mean it,s no good anymore...
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TomCatDriver In reply to plumpener [2009-06-04 19:03:02 +0000 UTC]
the older ones actually took some time and skill to play,as opposed to today,s silly video-games that practically just play themselves.
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TomCatDriver In reply to plumpener [2009-06-07 01:04:32 +0000 UTC]
my kid has rotted his brains on that junk,as well as millions more kids worldwide.
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plumpener In reply to TomCatDriver [2009-06-07 06:31:11 +0000 UTC]
Well there are some gaming platforms that are good too, I think. But, it is better always in the formative years though I would say to get plenty of fresh air, sunshine and excercise.
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TomCatDriver In reply to plumpener [2009-06-07 18:14:52 +0000 UTC]
like kids from my generation used to do before all that stuff even existed...!
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TomCatDriver In reply to plumpener [2009-06-08 09:15:09 +0000 UTC]
we knew how to have fun...!
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plumpener In reply to TomCatDriver [2009-06-08 17:11:03 +0000 UTC]
Yay! Fun! I practically lived on my bicycle!
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plumpener In reply to TomCatDriver [2009-06-09 03:25:18 +0000 UTC]
I went through a few bikes myself
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TomCatDriver In reply to plumpener [2009-06-09 04:54:33 +0000 UTC]
and i went through a few cars...
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plumpener In reply to TomCatDriver [2009-06-10 16:17:33 +0000 UTC]
Not really from a price or prestige standpoint, but from a performance one, I had 1974 Firebird Formula 400, that had headers, and positraction, and leather and the big tires in back.
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TomCatDriver In reply to plumpener [2009-06-11 10:20:22 +0000 UTC]
my fastest was a barely-street-legal Mazda Rx-7 with a 3-rotor Wankel...very dangerous toy!
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plumpener In reply to TomCatDriver [2009-06-11 15:54:09 +0000 UTC]
Sounds like, did it Fishtail on peel out?
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TomCatDriver In reply to plumpener [2009-06-12 00:10:02 +0000 UTC]
sometimes,yes. lots of power for a little car!
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TomCatDriver In reply to plumpener [2009-06-12 09:50:34 +0000 UTC]
too old for that sort of thing now. when i swapped out the Rx for the RR,it was like transferring from a slick little fighter{speed and danger} to the Presidential VIP transport.{comfort and safety}
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plumpener In reply to TomCatDriver [2009-06-12 19:28:06 +0000 UTC]
Yeah, but a Rolls is the pinnacle of an heirloom legacy and the height of prestige. No finer auto made.
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plumpener In reply to plumpener [2009-06-13 05:09:06 +0000 UTC]
A matter of taste I suppose, RR is far more recognized everywhere, I would think.
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TomCatDriver In reply to plumpener [2009-06-13 05:00:54 +0000 UTC]
even Maybach? they are pretty well up there too.
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Lord-Retsudo [2008-12-06 15:09:16 +0000 UTC]
Great combination, my 2 favourite Cold War-era 'lanes. Good to see you know your history too!!
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TomCatDriver In reply to Lord-Retsudo [2008-12-06 18:36:43 +0000 UTC]
so much history,and sadly forgotten,or never even learned by so many others.....thanks for the fave!
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Lord-Retsudo In reply to TomCatDriver [2008-12-06 18:56:47 +0000 UTC]
No problem I assume you've read the most excellent book on the XB-70, "The Ride to valhalla" ? As I recall it really sticks the knife in Bob McNamara over that project. Much as I respect him for standing by JFK through the Cuban crisis, he really Fubar'd on that one
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TomCatDriver In reply to Lord-Retsudo [2008-12-06 21:11:47 +0000 UTC]
McNamara FUBAR,d on a lot of things.....and my country had to pay for it. the B-70 was actually obsolete anyway. we found out the Hard Way{the U-2 Incident} that the USSR had SAM,s that could reach 6-figure altitudes.
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Lord-Retsudo In reply to TomCatDriver [2008-12-07 02:53:03 +0000 UTC]
True...I still think the XB-70 had a place in test flights though. And look at the SR-71, how long did that remain in active service ( and how much did it cost to develop afresh? )
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TomCatDriver In reply to Lord-Retsudo [2008-12-07 03:27:32 +0000 UTC]
cost....{for further particulars,apply to the CIA....}
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