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artkronecker In reply to ??? [2016-02-05 18:46:49 +0000 UTC]
What a collection! Webley looks particularly smooth. Amazing work!
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AndreaSilva60 In reply to artkronecker [2016-02-05 18:56:35 +0000 UTC]
Thank You! The luger and the French M1892 are a little botched, while I was editing the table I saved the other 7 on the file that contained the first two, I hate to redo things
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artlovr59 In reply to ??? [2016-02-05 18:44:47 +0000 UTC]
Oh that's interesting. Believe it or not, I've fired one of those monster Webleys once. Near broke my hand! I see the Nambu looks a lot like the Hungarian Frommer, also from this period.
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AndreaSilva60 In reply to artlovr59 [2016-02-05 19:01:35 +0000 UTC]
It was very sturdy!!! Did your army had got Webley? Why not, we still had the old Beretta 34.
Oh yes, the Frommer and the Steyr-Roth, or the South African Musgrave!
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artlovr59 In reply to AndreaSilva60 [2016-02-05 19:14:58 +0000 UTC]
It was! No, I didn't shoot in the army, just on a shooting day, someone lent it to me. Scary!
Yeah, some nice guns there. Musgrave is still around..
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AndreaSilva60 In reply to artlovr59 [2016-02-05 19:40:26 +0000 UTC]
I just shot with .22 pistol.
The Musgrave used the same stop system of the Fromm, apart from materials and mechanical machines the guns patents are still those of early 1900s.
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artlovr59 In reply to AndreaSilva60 [2016-02-06 10:45:36 +0000 UTC]
Nothing wrong with that. Have you ever fired a .22 Magnum. Eeek!
I didn't know that about the Musgrave. Yeah, I guess most handguns are still the same basic design. I suppose that must be true for rifles, sub-machine guns and automatic rifles. Some improvements here or there, but essentially the same.
Thanks for all the interesting info!
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AndreaSilva60 In reply to artlovr59 [2016-02-06 11:05:38 +0000 UTC]
They are very cheap ammo, other calibres are quite expansive!
You're always very welcome
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manchild70 In reply to ??? [2016-02-05 16:45:05 +0000 UTC]
I like the Nagant most. I'd like to see the older hand gun types from the First World War. The 44. Smith and Wesson Russian was used by the British, Canadian, Amarican and Russian, soldiers. I think it's a old beautiful hand gun. Then there is the Japanese revolver and for the other nations.lots of old revolvers
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AndreaSilva60 In reply to manchild70 [2016-02-05 17:42:51 +0000 UTC]
All these pistol are really old glories, my favourite is the M1911, but I wish to have all of them.
The italian ordnance sidearm during WWI was the revolver Bodeo, it was just obsolete at the end of 1800.
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MechaSamurai In reply to ??? [2016-02-05 14:28:12 +0000 UTC]
Impressive work, yet again! It's kind of scary for those soldiers who either got a Nambu or a Luger back in the day... I mean the Nambu could fire just from you touching it, and the Luger could either go off in your holster, or literally disassemble in your hands if it wasn't assembled properly or not cleaned thoroughly enough.
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AndreaSilva60 In reply to MechaSamurai [2016-02-05 14:33:55 +0000 UTC]
At those time revolver were still better, the Glisenti was save if you'd use its ammo, that was equal to the 9 Parabellum in shape,
but had quite half charge, if you used a 9 parabellum ............ BUUUUUM
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MechaSamurai In reply to AndreaSilva60 [2016-02-05 14:38:51 +0000 UTC]
Oh, yeah. That'd be scary.
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AndreaSilva60 In reply to MechaSamurai [2016-02-05 17:39:12 +0000 UTC]
In WWII, when italian army used the 9mm parabellum for sub-machine gun and Beretta pistols, the Glisenti ammo were marked with a red circle to inform that still used an old Glisenti or Brixia sidearm.
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AndreaSilva60 In reply to MechaSamurai [2016-02-05 17:53:20 +0000 UTC]
Oh yes, the 9 parabellum could unravel the bolt that jumped back hitting the shooter.
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stopsigndrawer81 In reply to ??? [2016-02-05 13:54:26 +0000 UTC]
Nice Work here! In the United States, the Nagant Revolver is available cheaply to collectors as Russia imported most of their Pre-AK-47 Rifles and pistols onto the US civilian market over the last few years. One guy selling a bunch of (live) Bolt actions at a gun show I recently went to recently; about half of them were Mosin-Nagant 1891 or 91/30s and the rest were assorted mausers mostly. He joked that of the 17 Million Mosin-Nagant 91/30s made by the Soviet Union, that 16 million of them were in the United States! Many .455 Webley British revolvers in the United States have been altered to accept .45-ACP ammunition as .455 Webley was apparently hard to find during the 50s and 60s when these revolvers were being surplused onto American shooters who wanted readily available ammunition. Japan of course was not a major player in World War I, but a local sporting goods store had a (live- not deactivated) Nambu Type A in it's Gun Library along with three second world war era Type 14 Nambus. The "Type A" or "1904" Nambu is most commonly referred to in the United States by collectors as the "Papa Nambu, and the smaller 7mm pistol is referred to as the "Baby Nambu." (I saw a baby for the first time in person at a gun show near Wichita, Kansas for sale at around $5000) Also the 9mm Type 26 Revolver would have been in use by Japan at the this time too.
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AndreaSilva60 In reply to stopsigndrawer81 [2016-02-05 14:11:36 +0000 UTC]
This weapons were so well designed and built that 100 years after still firing and have a second o third life.
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stopsigndrawer81 In reply to AndreaSilva60 [2016-02-05 17:02:49 +0000 UTC]
The 1911 is the King of the Hill in this regard; all the changes have mainly been cosmetic to add to user comfort, ease of use such as ambidextrous safeties, or to add accessories like rails, lasers, and weapons lights. The 1911 was only dropped as the US service pistol in 1985 mostly as a NATO mandate to go with the 9mm round and the original pistols (all of them pre-1946) had been getting old from decades of use, but even afterwards were used by troops not wanting a Beretta. Its still in production by dozens of companies in one form or another. But by contrast, the Nambu, Glisenti, Luger, and Roth-Steyr are just collectors items. The Webley and French Model 1892 revolvers while solid mechanical designs were chambered for cartridges that were underpowered or else became obsolete in one manner or another, and met the eventual fate of most "service revolvers" by the late twentieth century. The Browning M1910 lived on for decades in the form of various pocket pistols, but would be long obsolete in its current form and has not been made in its original form for years. Look at any American gun dealer selling handguns today , probably close to half the pistols are 1911 clones of some kind (excluding pocket pistols for concealed carry) .
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AndreaSilva60 In reply to stopsigndrawer81 [2016-02-05 17:37:03 +0000 UTC]
I agree,the 1911 was sturdy and reliable, the ammo was powerful and had a formidable stopping power. It was so
perfect, that as you say, served the USA army for more than 70 years.
The other are old fashionable ladies, wonderful pieces for collectors due to the load of history that lead.
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ScarletLightning565 In reply to ??? [2016-02-05 12:56:32 +0000 UTC]
The Nambu what at times more dangerous to the soldiers using it than the enemy: www.youtube.com/watch?v=dc87jo…
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AndreaSilva60 In reply to ScarletLightning565 [2016-02-05 13:14:52 +0000 UTC]
Thank you for the hint
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ScarletLightning565 In reply to AndreaSilva60 [2016-02-05 13:16:07 +0000 UTC]
Nambus are scary man!
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AndreaSilva60 In reply to ScarletLightning565 [2016-02-05 13:20:01 +0000 UTC]
He was en evil genius, His machine guns seemed Hotchkiss assembled by a child.
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