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I fully understand, as children my friends and I were fascinated by western movies, we were playing to duels and did a competition to pull quickly our toy guns.
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I have even seen Doughboys in WW1 with their holster flap tucked in behind their .45 automatic pistol. Some cut the flaps off. Movies were invented in the 1890s? There were a bunch of Westerns made in the first few decades of the 20th Century. That was on the soldier's mindset.
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Oh no, I was just saying that I understand the fascination, they touched the western epic on first hand, I knew it lots of year before from the western film, sorry, English is not my language, probably I don't always express properly my thoughts.
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cool my three favorites are the 1911, browning 1910 and webley
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yes of course USA proud, but I do love revolvers and the Webley is a favorite although I would prefer the 1917 colt or smith&wesson. That FN 1910 looks like a pocket gun, a nice concealed carry piece
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The webley was very sturdy and well done, I've seen that there were a .45 ACP version, it had to have a formidable recoil.
The FN was very little, like the Italian Beretta M1915 that was long 117 mm, very well done, but little stopping power for a military weapon.
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Yes that is true I have read about them and it seems there were many post war conversions, not many actually used during the war in that caliber with the Webleys.
Yeah something like that, with French using the 32ACP Ruby pistols and Savage pistols where something I would not have wanted for my primary sidearm, at best it is a last ditch weapon, not first use.
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From what my understanding on why they did this was two reasons, Handguns were seen as symbols of rank and that they were not actually going to use them and they wanted something small and lightweight to carry.
That and second people didn't really understand ballistics at the time and there was a hang over from the blackpowder days that said anything between 32 and 50 caliber is a legitimate self-defense round
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Yes, true, it was a sort of rank insigna! Our officiers had issued the Beretta and the Glisenti, then they could bought the weapon that preferred, often a 7.65 Browning caliber, while NCO, gunners, or machine guns crew had a very sturdy italian revolver, the old Bodeo that had a caliber of 10.35 mm, so rough that it hadn't the trigger guard.
Moreover high power means well built weapons and good material, FN and Beretta were just blowback operating, you just need a spring, the can't stand nothing more than a 7.65, or a 9 mm short.
Glisenti or Nambu were short-recoil, but the steel wasn't good enough to withstand great pressures, otherwise the bolt broke away from the barrel.
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Yes exactly metallurgy has advanced to where it is much improved and people have improved the knowledge of ballistics and what works and what doesn't.
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Today we are much less naive than once.
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yeah mainly it had to do with the changing nature of warfare and law enforcement starting in the 1960's you saw the front lines vanish and in Europe and the US the rise or ideological and Drug fueled crime that was armed with assault rifles and submachine guns and machine pistols, leadership realized that 32s and 380s were actually not the best as a primary sidearm for self-defense, comfort and symbolism gave way to the reality that you needed to defend yourself. Your nation dealt with the Red Brigades backed by the USSR and its allies. In the US we had that to a degree plus racial and especially in the 1970's and 1980's drug wars from cartels armed by both the USSR, China the US and the West in Latin America that allowed military grade weapons on to US streets for the first time since the 1920's and 30's. Cops need much better guns and that is why you see the modern handguns you see in there holsters.
On the military front Vietnam and Europe's colonial and post-colonial wars showed that you could be attacked any where and at any time and being armed with a pocket pistol only was a terrible, terrible idea. In the west you saw the movement to again the modern firearms we have today.
Granted I still think the 32 and 380 would be a good last ditch weapon, but by and large I would not use them as my primary sidearm, they might even be a secondary backup weapon even
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I know it's not my business, but or You have a master in modern History, or You are a mature man,
It's not easy to find someone that know italian contemporary history.
Yes it was as You say, the Red Brigades were trained in Czechoslovakia, and I think the Rote Armee Fraktion too, there was a Civil war of low intensity.
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Yes I have a Degree in History actually, it helps that I have had a long interest that ironically enough started with wanting to understand where modern animals came from evolutionary wise, also I tend to think I am mature for 31. One of my classes that I took was about post war European history, very interesting topic. My only regrets is that when I was in university that I never really pursued studies of Latin America, when it comes to world history I have had a substantial education in the histories of Eurasia and Africa.
I can tell you why too. When I was in college I decided to try to learn Arabic because I wanted to be patriotic and funny enough I got emails from of all places the CIA, the actual Central Intelligence Agency trying to recruit me as a linguist. Turns out I am terrible at languages so that never panned out but and I printed this list out and it listed the language fields that where what they were recruiting for: Mandarin/Chinese, Russian, Arabic, Turkish, Pashtun, Korean, Malaysian and Bengali. Really tells you were all the action is doesn't? But I have always had an interest in the lands of my ancestors and that is Europe, not Italy, I have no Italian, most of my blood fought yours in the past, but Italy plays a vital role in European History that one cannot learn about Italy, and the rest of Europe as well.
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Excuse my delay, yesterday was a heavy day.
I'm terrible in languages, I couldn't ever learn Pashtun or Mandarin!
Maybe spanish, quite similar to Italian.
History is fashinating indeed, it's my passion, and I believe that with the war in Syria, we are at a crucial point, Shiites against Sunnis, Europe and Turkey against Syria and Russia, hope for the best.
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Its fine about the delay.
Maybe, I should have stuck to German, but I was to afraid to fail at that.
I believe so to and I do too.
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I had to learn English, I paid lot of money to the British Council, but very poor results 
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you write pretty well, if that means anything, I know very, very little Italian, mostly from Hollywood. Your English better than some.
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My father had the German Luger.... unfortunately he needed money back in the 70s and sold it for $100.
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a pity! Was it a war booty of your Granpa?
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*g* No. I'm 56 - My father was in France during WW II and would have ended up in the Pacific Theatre if they had gone ahead with the Invasion.
I have a few items yet that he brought home- an Iron Cross (I think, have to check) and some wartime German money.
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Hei, I was born in 1960, we are peers
So it was in Europe during WWII, thanking God he escaped the Pacific front!
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Miniere d'oro di informazione grafica *_*
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Disegnate molto realisticamente,ottimo lavoro
Hai mai provato a disegnare fucili/pistole futuristiche?Oppure armi legate al mondo del Fantasy o fantascientifico?
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Sono un bestione con poca fantasia, mannaggia...........
Disegno mostriciattoli, strani animali e troll, soprattutto durante le riunioni di lavoro, ma non ho mai provato con le armi futuristiche , chissà........
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Hahahahhahahahaahhahahah io pure durante le lezioni disegno robe strane!!
Comunque,dai provaci!OwO
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What a great handgun the M1911 is.
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The best that have ever done, John Browning was a genius.
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I had a feeling you were going to draw the Colt M1911 in you next piece, that gun is such an iconic pistol. Germany made some pretty cool guns too, I'm not going to lie, Lugers are freaking beast!
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So....... Gotcha!!!!
Nothing like the M1911, the best sidearm ever coinceved, Browning was the Edison of the Weapons.
The Luger was a my father dream, but it costed to much for him, at the end, I don't know why, when
he had enought money to realize a dream he bought a Beretta 92 that costed as a Luger.
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Wow, your father had a Luger, that's awesome!
I agree with you on the M1911 statement you said, Brown was the Edison of Pistols.
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Ci sarebbe anche la Beretta M15, la Bodeo M89 ed altri
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Dai, ci sono già, vabbè sono fatte a matita ed acquerello.........
sono alla quarta pagina, insieme alla lanciarazzi Very.
Mi hai spiazzato, mi aspettavo recriminazioni perché non c'è la mauser C96
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Oh è vero, manca anche la Mauser lol. Comunque molto bravo
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