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Published: 2011-04-24 19:13:47 +0000 UTC; Views: 2715; Favourites: 21; Downloads: 0
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So, yes, I have a lot of WIP stuff on my laptop. Goodness knows when it will all be done. But maths has proved that Hell has already frozen over, so I'm going to be late regardless.From the top:
Thunderbird 5! And a somewhat modified TB3, since seeing Daryl Joyce and Armondikov's versions has made me extremely jealous and determined to make my model look a touch more up to date. To this end, extensive reworking of the engine pylons. The Big Stationary Bird herself is a somewhat compacted design, removing the bulky docking port in favour of side-on docking and unloading 'wharf' and adding wopping great solar panels to the top. I've tried to make her look a touch more modular too, since she was supposed to have been built in stages.
Second row sees a White Robot, guardian of the Land of Fiction and famously not actually white but a rather nice pale lemon colour, and a Mechanoid Unleashed, which is like the Force Unleashed only slightly less exciting. I just wanted to show off that there are things behind all those trianglur facets and THEY WILL GET YOU. The White Robot is something of an attempt to further my redesigns of all Doctor Who robots ever (next stop, the Servo Robot and Kamelion....). The slit in the face was a chance addition that suddenly made the whole thing seem much more intimidating.
And at the bottom we have Junker the Cyberman/Dalek Hybrid and a Titan Dalek (very, very WIP this one). Junker is an attempt to fulfil two promises, one to model a C/D hybrid in red and the other to produce a Vogon Blaster/Glitter gun ala Revenge of the Cybermen. Put the two together and we have another candidate for Beta's resistance cell. The Titan Dalek followed on from a very bizzare dream that saw my brain somehow merging red Daleks with the Talyn-style DRDs from Farscape. This idea, by some odd leap of logic, led me to decided that what I really needed was the Dalek equivalent of a Howitzer. So I built one.
None of the original ideas here are mine, and my apologies to you all.
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That White Robot redesign is gorgeous. The White Robots don't get enough love imo, it's a great design (of course not initially made for Who) and therefore it feels like that stellar redesign here hasn't gotten the praise it deserves by proxy
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The howitzer dalek has inspired this, although in my version the dalek is able to escape the tank should it become incapacitated:
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The Teriliptil robot from The Visitation that pretended to be the grim reaper?
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Does thunderbird 3 still have the arms for rescue and cargo movement, and is there going to be a spec sheet on thunderbird 5?
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Wow, I love that mechanoid, I tried redesigning them before but never thought of something like that for some reason... Great work
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Thanks!
It took me a while to figure it out myself, and considerably longer to get the arms working.
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-its always highly anticipated that you post some awesome new Dalek variant... or a cyber-thing, or anything out of Dr. Who... and you say your checking out McKinstry's stuff for reference things - whats next on the cards, and When?!
Best wishes,
Eddy
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Not sure if you keep up with McKinstry's site, but this is rather good - -
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Kinda wishing he'd done the Invasion version, as I never liked Moonbase's baggy Burberry tracksuits, and I'm not really sure how this particular cyberman is actually turning his head. Still a pretty cool concept piece, and very much in league with your "break bones / stretch limbs" thing.
His cybermat is good, too.
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Oh, what excellent timing. I was looking for his stuff for references for some Dalek models I'm working on. Must bookmark it for future study...
And that is very nice. I'd personally have the head a bit more taken apart but that's my only real disagreement. Boy, does that man do a nice cross-section. Really fantastic work (I love the way he's carried the balls from the exoskeleton into the innards. Love it!
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Seeing as you've done touch-ups on Thunderbird 3, would you mind posting an updated version of the specification sheet?
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I intend to, actually. Just haven't gotten round to it yet.
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I'll get round to more, I promise!
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'allo again!
Just wondered if you had any plans to post more/possibly larger pics of your older-styled daleks like Zeg? As I said, I think your collar-supported slats / the panelled indents on the arm boxes / the lines on the neck bin collars were way better than what the Art Dept. came up with. Bit more "futuristic tank" rather than "WWII tank"...
Best,
E
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Hmm...maybe. I'm not entirely happy with that model because the textures on the arm tend to get scrambled when I render it. But I'm sure I can come up with something eventually...
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'Allo again - sorry to be a pain! Just seeking your opinion again (as you proved yourself to be The authority on Daleks and Cybermen...)
With your new McKinstry Daleks - the old ones had slats which were solar panels or forcefield broadcoat antennae (I prefer to think the latter). If the new ones have a plain midsection, how would the Dalek do that stuff? Considering the base still has sense globes so it still has some external tech. Just figured the McKinstry daleks looked technologically imbalanced. Like the look itself - just wondered if it made sense, functionally? Got any thoughts?
And yeah - wish Team Moff-Kinstry had bothered to consult you before greenlighting that design. Great design, BAD proportions. How does the mutant fit in that cramped misection? (always figured they'd sit in there, though Dalek Sec seemed to have needed tons of space... liked how he opened but it looked a bit "empty" - in my mind's eye Dalek internals are jammed with tissue and tech).
Best, etc.,
E
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Authority? Nah, I just remember loads of useless stuff.
The way I see it, the plain midsection is just a sign of advancing technology. All the equipment (the slats and bands and chicken wire etc) is now concealled inside a shell of bonded polycarbide, protecting it from damage. The whole 'skin' of the section probably acts as a power receptor, absorbing light, heat, radiation and so on to keep the Dalek ticking over. The sensor globes remain the same because...well...they need to. It's hard to done much else with them and retain a 360 degree view of the surroundings.
And yeah, I have to agree with you on the internals thing. While it's ok for the midsection to open out like it does in Dalek, the base should be crammed with motivators and sensor equipment...
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Hullo again!
Earthshock Cybs = frowny faces? If anything I found them to be quite neutral looking. The Cybus-men, on the other hand, have the "gaunt cheekbones angry skull" look, which, while menacing, doesn't ring true ... too "designed" for what should be simply practical and devoid of detail...
Did you ever consider giving Drathro a makeover? I always thought Doctor Who was starting to look really quite good by the time of the later Colin Baker era. Drathro was sufficiently chunky and intimidating, and I actually liked how his legs seemed dissproportionately short in contrast to his big head and torso in the few long shots he got in that serial ... too bad his arms only swung up and down, by the look of him. A good L1 scout robot would be awesome too.
I figured Drath would be right up your alley.
Eddy
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Well, the Earthshock masks included a sort of sweeping 'eyebrow' that, coupled with the 'downturned' mouth lines made them look more aggressive than previous versions. This makes them, to my eyes at least, more sculpted and emotive than their immediate predecessors, the Invasion/Revenge style mask, which I think gets away from the point.
And the Cybusmen *were* designed, in story. They're the result of a dedicated effort to create a cybernetic lifeform, so their looking sculpted and designed makes a lot of sense. Well, ish.
Drathro...hmm...not one I'd thought of doing but maybe, in time. He is distinctive, certainly. We'll see.
(And I can't actually remember what the L1 looked like, so that would require a bit of research before deciding!
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-whoops - thats what happens when your PC freezes and you click Add tiwce... *rolling eyes theatrically*
Good chest unit indeed!
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Heyup again!
I like the chest unit you put on "Junker"... old school Troughton, but suitably updated!
Got any plans to update the Earthshock-Attack-Nemesis cybermen? In execution they reeked... but as a kid of the 80s, they were kind of the definitive look, for me.
Even as a kid with the Troughton repeats the White Robots completely failed to fire my imagination - even the 10-year old me thought appendages that bent a.l.a straw bends were cheap and unlikely (hence, why the Revenge-model cyberman never did it for me). Well done on your White Robot, though!
Eddy
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Heyup again!
I like the chest unit you put on "Junker"... old school Troughton, but suitably updated!
Got any plans to update the Earthshock-Attack-Nemesis cybermen? In execution they reeked... but as a kid of the 80s, they were kind of the definitive look, for me.
Even as a kid with the troughton repeats the White Robots completely failed to fire my imagination - even the 10-year old me thought appendages that bent a.l.a straw bends were cheap and unlikely (hence, why the Revenge-moel cyberman never did it for me). Well done on your White Robot, though!
Eddy
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Ey oop.
Thanks, yeah, it was the Tomb-style chest unit I was going for, though it needs a lot of filling in. The front will be a grill, of course, but I might hodge-podge some different components in the sides.
As for the Earthshock lot...no plans as yet. The frowny faces don't ring true for me, though I'll admit to prefering them when I was younger. Elements of them may crop up in the inevitable alternate deigns I do in the future but for now, I think the most they'll get is an influence on the cyberguns.
And, yeah, the white robots...not the most intimidating villian ever. But they served their purpose and, hey, there's potential there.
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Oh my giddy aunt! How could I have forgotten the Chumblies! Of course I have to do them!
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I like how TB5 is coming along. You're definitely right that the modular look works well and making it a compact disc shape makes it look more like a proper satellite and less of a hastily assembled... thing. And the new TB3 pylons look pretty slick, far closer to what you'd expect from a real rocket that was assembled like that (not that a *real* rocket would be assembled like that!).
The solar panels look out of place. Okay, so solar is a good back up and nice and clean for working in space but these guys are supposed to be running state-of-the-art nuclear reactors, there wouldn't be much need. And the fact that there's two of them is slightly at odds with the three-fold symmetry of the rest of the design. Perhaps if you removed them you could compensate for the lack of detail on top by working on the modular system to make it look like each one was designed for a specific purpose.
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Thanks for the comments. You're right, TB3 is nowhere near a realistic rocket but, hey, this is the show where they tried to move the Empire State Building up the street on the back of a truck.
I think having a back up power supply when you're working with a state of the art nuclear reactor would be a must, personally, but...I do see what you mean. They do sort of get in the way. My original reasoning was to evoke the twin upper antenna that the original have. I might build some sort of extra array and see what it looks like. Or go the route of the movie, with the big circular array...probably no though, because I'm not sure I like the way that looked.
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An array that's raised up as in the movie version might work as I don't think that design was too bad. For the size of it, it wouldn't be two large panels.
Ah yes, the Empire State. Surely it would have been cheaper to make an atom-for-atom replica of the building than to build a nuclear powered moving platform that was bigger than the building itself. It's best to not think too hard about it, I suppose.
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Cant wait to see your redesigns of the Osiran Mummies, Vocs and Kraal Androids!
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Ah...yeah, well you may be waiting a while. ProEngineer, being a CAD program, ain't much good for fabrics and those three rather depend on having fabric around them. Maybe when I have a handle on Blender (could be a looong time, though) I will give them a go. Though I have to say, of all the robots in Doctor Who, the Vocs and the Osiran Servators are about the least in need of redesigning. They're pretty much perfect as they are!
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Thanks! I'll let you know as soon as I've got that Vogon gun done properly.
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Quite an amazing ensemble of rather fascinating ideas, all excecuted with such clear lines. Truly an ideas sheet at its best.
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