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OddPenguin — Nuzlocke Comics Guide: Text pt 2
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Folder with all the other tip and trick guides:volbeatfiro.deviantart.com/gal...
here we are, finishing up tips on Text and some other things to go into, such as naming, rule pages, and saying names.
hope no one gets offended over the rule pages bit, I just felt that needed to be shared and noted.
enjoy.
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Well, I try to never give my Pokemon any ridiculous nicknames.
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I'm going to do a (non-nuzlocke) comic of my playthrough of Y as Loki. Partly because the legendaries are based off of Norse mythology and I thought that would be a cool mini-crossover, but mostly because I am obsessed. Anyways I am having his Pokemon be nicknamed after Old Norse names, because I thought that would be more fitting then "regular" names. None of them have any letters with special... doodle things. Is that okay, or should I change it?
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far as the naming system I see no particular problem with that so long as the names aren't overly hard to pronounce or consist of over 10 letters.
I find the concept for this comic a tad peculiar given why you chose it to be frank. Do you really think this fandom for loki will motivate you enough to mold a whole comic that'll take a year plus to finish in most cases? it's a neat crossover to have norse mythology in with a playthrough, but your justification of because you enjoy the character is odd to me. If it was a one shot or a short comic perhaps, but playthrough comics are often very long and require more solid reasoning as to how you structured them. You've thought about the main character and his naming system, but have you considered the extra world building that'll be necessary to implement the norse mythology tie in properly? what about the other main characters, the friends, who will they be and how will they relate to loki? what is loki's motivation for doing this challenge of going through the gyms? how will you design the gym leaders and other characters in a way that fits the norse mythology but also correlates closely enough to their canon designs?
I know basically all you wanted to ask was if your naming system is fine, and it's pretty much good no worries, but I'm bringing up my viewpoint on the concept you pitched as a whole as I feel it needs more polishing beyond being a fan of the character loki. There's going to be a lot of extra work you've got to do in order to properly do a crossover with mythology, just naming pokemon with norse names and loki main character won't do the job alone
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- Font Bubbles, No check... I need work with that
- Sound Effects, No check... I never use them...
- Names... Mine aren't references at all, so i think i got this down... Although my names are a bit cheesy at times... Check... (They're Fag the Bulbasaur, Byte the Ratatta and Silk the Caterpie)
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even if you're using traditional, consider adopting a protractor approach and make your circles consistent.
that's going to limit what you show and emphasize in your comic, just note that. sure there's other ways to do it, but note that they get used a lot for a reason. imagine how much less impact manga would have without all the excessive sound effects in battles.
the last 2 are fine, the first one is kind of borderline joke sounding, it'll be hard to feel bad for fag.
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Oooops... I meant to say Fang 0-0
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well then, that certainly makes it ok, typos at times can really change the meaning of things.
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"On the count of 'forgetting important characters' names', how does the defendant pleads?"
"Guilty"
So yeah, thanks for reminding people like me of the names once in a while. It's also a nice feature to help hooking newcomers to your story.
And bubbles are really tricky, but in the end they're a very funny tool to play with.
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it's easy to do, don't feel bad, so many names to keep track of.
heh, yeah, don't want to alienate people by never saying your character names.
indeed, it's funny how different people can do them
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This is very helpful. Thanks. The problem I have with text is that I draw in Sai but insert text on photoshop, so I don't know how spacy or not the text will be D:
Also, the constant naming thing can be very, very annoying.
I remember seeing a string of comments of a MLP roleplay. Every time one of the people said something (she was being some pony named Applejack I think) she would insert the word "Sugarcube" at the end of each. and every. comment.
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no problem, there's several other guides like this done. I actually do the same thing, bouncing back and forth from PSD and Sai. the way to do it is to draft about how big your text will be in the roughs (messily write out the dialogue or something in roughs), then type over the general area. with type done, you can simplify the type and merge it all in one layer, then draw around it in Sai.
like I mentioned in my accents guide, ending all sentences with a gimmick word or a name is a huge pain. but on the other side, you don't want people to have to hunt down for a character's name, I find it even more annoying when I can't figure out a character's name because they mentioned it once at the beginning, then never again, and just assume you'll remember
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Yeah. I do messily write it out but it still ends up looking a bit odd. I'll work on it though. My textbox placements need work, too.
As for Pokemon names, I actually have a Pokemon named Nuisance. But the lovely thing is that that Pokemon does its damnest to prove to his owner (Nur) that he doesn't deserve such a name!
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I don't see any major problem with it so far, just a few things here and there. in your prologue 2 , the 3rd panel where he says "what" could have been placed higher, as I end up reading the other speech bubble before the what since the what is much lower, same page on prologue 2 the 3rd to last panel with the 4 dialogue bubbles flows weirdly, and one last point, on page 2 the changing font size in the same bubble reads awkwardly in panel 1, unless they whisper the other comment, it's weird to have differing font sizes in the same bubble.
heh, funny how ironic things like that go
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The font WAS smaller because he was whispering it.
And thanks for the tips.
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ah ha, I gotcha, and no problem :3
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Ahhh the frequency of mentioning names, I always forget about that. >_> I'll be sure to mention them more often. At least I make an effort to show every team member on almost every page (in addition to the silhouettes on the header), because nothing is more annoying than not even knowing what Pokémon are on the team.
'Hey guys, I made a rule page! What an accomplishment! Now I can take a break for one month, right?'
Yeah, I think those things are only a valuable additon when you have some interesting additional rules that don't come into effect anytime soon. Like here , Rule 5. I started reading the comic for the art, but that one definitely added some excitement.
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sometimes I feel I go a bit overboard with it at times, so I need to do the opposite and forget about it some more XD. and oh yeah, you always have a lot of your pokemon out is too lazy and tends to only have one pokemon out at a time, why they never really get to interact much with each other
yeah, I'll tend to use the species name instead in a comment if I absolutely can't figure out the name, but I'd rather not do that.
HEY THERE, I made 5 rule pages for each generation I'ma nuzlocke, yeah, that's right, I'm going to make a nuzlocke that goes through all generations, just lookit all these rule pages.....never updates. rules I feel should be integrated into the world of the comic somehow, you shouldn't need a rules page except to link in your page navigation. I get so sick of seeing all the rule pages in my inbox. rule pages are like candy wrappers, they shape around the nuzlocke, but by themselves...they tend to have no value. and oh ho, another nuzlocke to steal, that rule sounds interesting and the art sure has some good detail and more realistic style to faces
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Hm, I didn't notice an overdose of names mentioning, so you're probably fine.
Psst, you can still fix that.
I usually browse through many, many pages to find out the name. Because not knowing the name of someone I especially liked in a particular page makes me feel too guilty. xD
I want to strangle people like that. 
Yeah, if you have a rule page and think it frees you from having to explain in the comic why catching Pokémon is limited, you have a problem. ._.
Yay, I got someone a new reader in a casual conversation! 
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alright, cool
heh, I already haved fixed some things. slowly and silently fixing things now and then, it's like 1984 behind the scenes with my modifications XD
this is why I include team names at the top banner, just in case I don't end up mentioning the names. yeah, I hate having to comment things like "your houndoom did great" because I don't know the name of said houndoom.
heh heh, smily icon next to wanting to strangle people, that made me chuckle but I get what you mean, sometimes I don't want to come off as harsh, so I try to put it in a softer way.
indeed
GOLDEN STAR for you indeed. though I tend to take time to get to things, so I'm not a reader just yet XD
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Pfff oh dear, I bet if I read everything again now I wouldn't notice because everything looks completely natural.
It's too late for me to add that, please leave me behind, you can make it without me!!
There's plenty more smiley faces next to violent statements where this one came from. Just keep talking to me on a regular basis~.
The last person who told me about their 5 Nuzlockes plan is still updating. There's a sliver of hope that they can complete one in a matter of a few years. ouo
YAY. And I know that feeling. xD
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most of it is just typo fix ups no worries, though a few jokes or lines of dialogue really bugged me so I tweaked them, you may notice XD.
heh, no nuzlocke should get left behind, I'm not leaving you.
oh ho, splendid. and golly, at that rate it'll only be a decade and a half before completion. so long as they can keep the motivation.
heh, it's how it goes
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This will be an experiment to see if I'm an attentive person after all. ouo
> climbs on your back
To adventure safety!
I'll sit at the sideline, watching the disaster unfold~.
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heh, there's a lot of pages and I only changed a few things here and there, totally understandable if it's not noticable.
SAFETY AWAY!
oh ho, sounds like it'll be a real spectacle
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first comment whoot! (wanted to say that) First commenter achivement complete!
moving on,
reading the text alignment section and the sound effects one really helped me think over the placement of the text.
as i was just centering them for like half the page. there are bubbles that hug the corners cuz i didnt like them covering the panel lines.
makes the already small panels too cluttered.
typos! im making sure there arent any by re-reading the page as a comic reader. maybe i should keep the text lines in separate layers for easy editing.
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you did it, GOLDEN STAR
heh, glad it helped, I'm not sure if the advice is universal or not , but I said what I thought would help.
heh, yeah, that's the way to do it, and text editing you don't necessarily even have to have them on separate layers, when I edit typos I just white square over the line I want to fix, then retype it spelled right over the square I made
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