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Before I say anything else, PLEASE DOWNLOAD FOR FULL VIEW!

Anyways, I present to you the 2013 version of my, yet another flawed and very inaccurate anatomy guide! XDD

I decided to make another version of the old anatomy guideline because I think it needs some changing. I would supposed to finish this a lot earlier ago, but I was busy with requests. ;w;

Take not that note everything in here has to be followed---I am still learning from real life, so you might as well do the same instead I'm still learning GAH


Critiques are deeply appreciated.



By the way, RDJ photo reference is found in google <3
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stardazzle In reply to ??? [2013-05-13 04:18:47 +0000 UTC]

Thank you so much for the critique!

Yes I understand. I've been so used to animesque style for far too long, so I'm sorry if the anatomy has heavy anime influence to it.

I'm still learning--and hopefully, will get better in the future. But thank you for pointing those out, as I'm still struggling with those things as of the moment.

Again, thank you for taking the time to critique!

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mantisazure In reply to stardazzle [2013-05-13 04:26:32 +0000 UTC]

Absolutely.

I say, embrace the anime but become the master of it and not the other way around. I grew up with Rob Liefeld and He-Man and Thundercats art.. so I know what you mean and my anatomy is still reliant upon close study of photos.. when I don't, it's pretty obvious and terrible.
Young Justice (the cartoon) is a pretty good example of how you can have both an anime style but still respect anatomy. It's not manga or anime necessarily, but it's an excellent resource for visualizing how you can really meld the two ideas together.
The other thing, like I said is depth. Making sure that muscles and body masses are wrapping to the body and not just kinda added on wherever. It really helps add believability.
You can find Burne Hoggarth or George Bridgman books pretty easily and there is another one.. Drawing from Force or just Force.. I can't remember..but they teach so much about how to add that extra depth to your characters.
It is insanely cool to see someone who is so open to critique, honestly I'm a little jealous Keep up the great work, because even though there are faults, you are learning and growing and that's about the best any of us can really hope for

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skypard [2013-05-12 23:32:26 +0000 UTC]

Overall

Vision

Originality

Technique

Impact


I know the stars look bad-- and I'm prepared for this to be rejected (though like anyone who rights a critique, I'd rather it not be). You don't have to accept everything I say, I'm by no means an expert. e.deviantart.net/emoticons/s/s… " width="15" height="15" alt="" data-embed-type="emoticon" data-embed-id="391" title=" (Smile)"/>

First off, I want to talk about the name. "The Not-So-Accurate Anatomy Guide". Well... this is correct. Both the male and female bodies look pretty weird, almost like they're dolls rather than actual people. It's hard to pinpoint exactly what is wrong, but compare your drawings to anyone walking down the street and you'll see something isn't quite right! The curve in the female body's spine looks almost painful, and male figure's pectorals are huge. In addition, the arms on both are very long. If you imagine how the male's arm would look straight and his hand unfolded, his fingers would nearly touch his knees. Also, the body shape examples are pretty off themselves. The noses are strange. What's that extra line between the nostril and the bridge for? It could be a stylization thing, but is that really necessary? Especially when many people viewing this tutorial may not know it's a stylization thing and might believe that the nose gets thinner across the bridge or above the nostril or whatever that line is supposed to denote.

I know you know your anatomy isn't perfect. It's okay not to be an anatomy expert, I'm not myself. However, whenever you put names like "guide" or "tutorial" or "diagram" on things, it immediately becomes harmful to artists who may not know as much as you do and accept all of your errors as correct. I am very aware that drawing like this could just be your "style" or whatever, but other people may not be. Some young artists might accept this as realism or semi realism, even when it obviously isn't. It's damaging to teach people wrongly.

As a final thought, the "A girl's body, no matter what boy shape she has, always has curves" is a bit of a broad generalization, isn't it? I know plenty of women and girls who don't have curves, yet they are still women. This isn't art related really, but I thought I should say that. Have a nice day!

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stardazzle In reply to skypard [2013-05-13 01:53:02 +0000 UTC]

Hello there!
First of all, I just want to thank you for taking the time to give a well-thought critique. It really means a lot!

Second, the things that you pointed out have already been said to me by my peers, so it's okay. And yes, I admit that most, if not all of the contents in this "guidelines" are just my style and not the real thing. I'm still learning, and my knowledge is so limited. Honestly, it's nice to know that somebody took the time to actually point out my wrongs.

Anyway, I don't think you're being unfair, you're just trying to say you think is right, and that's okay.

Thanks again!

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skypard In reply to stardazzle [2013-05-13 03:09:20 +0000 UTC]

Heya! Your attitude is very refreshing. (: I didn't take much time to read through comments, so my bad if I repeated a lot of what other people have said. I think it's great of you to try to help out others. Let's all just keep learning together~

Have a good night!

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stardazzle In reply to skypard [2013-05-13 03:15:02 +0000 UTC]

Haha it's okay! There are some things that you said that were quite new to me, which helps a lot in the time being. Really, I'm very grateful for your help!

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alisalley In reply to stardazzle [2013-05-13 02:39:27 +0000 UTC]

Hi there! I too had noticed some areas in anatomy that looked to be challenging for you, but I was hoping this critique would not only point them out, but also give suggestions on how to fix them.

First of all, please accept my thanks that, although you use a very anime-esque stylization, you take the time to draw breasts correctly. Too often I see the beach ball bust by inexperienced artists. So good for you!

Next, I think I can help in places where it seems like you're struggling. These are just suggestions, and you don't have to take them but I hope you find them useful.
First, the original critic had mentioned the pecs on your men are large. the reason is because the line tracing up from under his pectoral is drawn too long as it reaches the shoulder. See, if you take a look here [link] the pectoral tucks underneath the deltoids, so when you draw the arm the deltoid muscle overlaps the pecs and attaches to the clavicles, where the pectorals tuck underneath and attach to the humerus bone.

I will agree with the original critic too, that the arms are indeed longer than they should be. You have the right idea there on the female where you drew a guide from the girl's hand to her mid-thigh, but it's a straight line rather than a curve. Here's something to keep in mind for proportion the elbow typically aligns with the bottom of the rib cage, and the wrist typically aligns with the greater trochanter, which, if that's latin to you here's an image of what that is [link]

I see that if your characters were to straighten out their arms their wrists would fall at mid-thigh, too far below the greater trochanter. That's okay though As you've said, you're still learning.

One last thing that might be appropriate to suggest is that your feet and legs look too stiff, which is why they appear to be "doll-like". If you haven't already, try looking into gesture drawing in order to add a sense of weight and balance to your drawings.

I'm glad you're working very hard to learn anatomy from life, that's very good! If anything didn't make sense at first or you would like more example or explanation, don't hesitate to send me a message. I would be happy to help.

-Ali

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stardazzle In reply to alisalley [2013-05-13 02:55:27 +0000 UTC]

Hello! Before anything else, I just want to say thank you for taking the time to write such a long comment. I truly appreciate it!

Aaah, yes. Anime style has been with me for so long, that even when I try to shift from another style, it always influences it, and I'm trying to get away from it.

Thank you so much for the reference! Though to be very honest, I don't understand at the pectoral part. My knowledge in anatomy is very basic and limited, and certain terms that sound too 'latin' doesn't seen to ring a bell to me. XD But I do understand on the part about the arms and hips--that, I can at least understand as such.

Oh gosh, the legs. I do agree with you, they do look stiff, but I can't help it. But I'll try to look up to your suggestion and try to study life a little more.

Yes, thank you. Learning anatomy is still hard to me since I don't have an anatomy book in hand, and I'm still struggling to put my observations in life to paper, but thank you so much for giving me thoughtful suggestions, I'm truly grateful!

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alisalley In reply to stardazzle [2013-05-13 03:21:54 +0000 UTC]

You're very welcome I enjoy helping other artists, it helps me learn more too!

Haha, no worries, I completely understand the struggle with changing from an anime background.

Here, if there is one anatomy and figure drawing book that is most essential is Michael Hampton's Design and Invention Figure Drawing book, as seen here [link] At the moment Amazon.com doesn't have any copies at regular price and the used resale copies are way overpriced. This book usually costs roughly 30-40USD, which is a steal considering all the great material it has to offer for years and years to come.

I would definitely recommend this book; try to see about getting a copy if you can. It will teach you everything from gesture to structure, to volume and anatomy in a way that's very engaging and pushes for nice, loose work that is accurate but also packs a lot of life.

in the meantime, if you haven't yet joined ArtistsHospital, you should certainly stop by and check it out. They have archived a good lot of the resources here on dA that help with everything from anatomy to stylization help to color theory. [link] I hope these resources help too!

Keep up the great work!

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stardazzle In reply to alisalley [2013-05-13 03:34:00 +0000 UTC]

Wow, thanks for the advice! Couldn't get any more plentiful.

I think I remembered strolling in a bookstore with that book before; I swear the author's name was quite familiar. It's a little expensive for my wallet, but I'll take a look out when the time comes! ^^

I've seen ArtistsHospital since I was a new member, but now that you suggested, they've added more things ever since. I'll try to take a look around when I have the time.

Thank you so much again! You truly help a lot, along with others!

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Ultimatemariolover [2013-05-12 21:19:25 +0000 UTC]

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I do have to say, this is a very well done anatomy guide, especially for beginners. As an artist myself, I find this VERY informative for both male and female anatomy. One thing on this I really like is that it shows many ways that a humans anatomy can go, not just one type for all.
Although there are many guides like this out there, this one is very pleasing to the eye and helpful as a reference as well!
I also have to say that this guide, unlike some other guides, resemble's more of a realistic view of humans than an anime style, which I think that is very good to focus on more of!
One thing I wish you'd bring up more is the importance of proportion! Proportion is very important as well, which I'm sure you know! e.deviantart.net/emoticons/s/s… " width="15" height="15" alt="" data-embed-type="emoticon" data-embed-id="391" title=" (Smile)"/> I also think you should go more in depth about each section, perhaps making a whole deviation on a specific individual body structure, (Head, body, eyes, maybe even a lesson on proportion!) but that is just my opinion!
All and all, this was very helpful; Thank you for making this guide!

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stardazzle In reply to Ultimatemariolover [2013-05-13 01:55:16 +0000 UTC]

Thanks for the critique!

While I'm glad that you liked it, honestly more people say that my anatomy is bad rather than good, so I suggest use it as a guide rather than the whole truth about anatomy, but I'm still learning and all, and I'm okay with that.

Thank you again!

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Ultimatemariolover In reply to stardazzle [2013-05-13 02:33:59 +0000 UTC]

you're welcome!

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moonlitinuyasha1985 [2017-05-02 20:36:13 +0000 UTC]

Thank you so much for this!

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Ego-Man25 [2017-03-12 23:03:21 +0000 UTC]

I made a whole new folder JUST for helping me out on drawing things. Β This should help greatly.

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Animangie [2016-09-25 18:18:45 +0000 UTC]

THX!

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KayceeFjord [2016-09-16 21:09:13 +0000 UTC]

This is literally one of the first hits on google searching for anime anatomy. Bookmarked for the future as I try to transition from silly doodles to silly sketches!

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Wolfangel44 [2015-12-30 21:02:31 +0000 UTC]

This is very helpful thank you! πŸ˜„

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JOE-ROYALBLOOD [2015-04-26 22:14:33 +0000 UTC]

when I think of drawing breasts, I imagine a waterballoon XD (It's help for me when I do my traditional illustrations oxo)

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jadyjady123 [2014-07-28 02:10:52 +0000 UTC]

MyΒ favourite part was Robert Downey Jr

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laneighS [2014-03-12 16:43:50 +0000 UTC]

Thx dis so helpful

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marinasdiamandis [2014-03-03 17:53:10 +0000 UTC]

helped me a lot! thank you

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LittleAMissEpic [2013-07-02 01:35:18 +0000 UTC]

trust meXD you did not butcher his awesomenessXD very awesome in all=3

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Queen-Of-Cookies [2013-06-03 00:40:18 +0000 UTC]

Helped me draw boobs better!

Thx. :3

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Bumblabee [2013-05-24 17:48:42 +0000 UTC]

this is really awesome!
despite a few errors and everything being perfected this is as i said really cool.

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BrookRiver [2013-05-20 08:53:50 +0000 UTC]

This is a nice collection of details one should keep in mind while drawing people! It's also very friendly~

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stardazzle In reply to BrookRiver [2013-05-20 23:52:31 +0000 UTC]

Aww thank you!
I'm glad that you find it useful.

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Joshels [2013-05-14 04:45:58 +0000 UTC]

I've browsed through a number of anatomy "references"/"guides"/"tutorials", some very detailed and anatomically correct with actual mapping of muscles on mannequins, and it's actually a bit refreshing to see one that isn't so overly technical. Maybe in a sense your approach is more practical in fact. Certainly from the perspective of someone like myself who isn't exactly interested in true-to-life realistic character sketches as a more stylized cartooned approach.
In that light, you've done a superb job highlighting key attributes that define how a subject looks. I think if somebody has a good grasp on the points you've illustrated here, they can use them to create a range of compelling characters featuring anatomy directly referenced or varied anywhere in between the examples you've given.
In short, you might humbly feel that this is flawed and inaccurate as an artistic guide, but I find it an effective lesson using simple illustrated examples that I know I for one can and shall endeavor to benefit from
Thank you for your helpful thinking and the time you took to compile this!

And btw, you did a fantastic job caricaturing RDJ there in my opinion I approve!

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stardazzle In reply to Joshels [2013-05-14 08:29:20 +0000 UTC]

Thank you so much for the comment/critique!

I'm glad that you think so. As someone who is about to enter college next month, I still have very limited knowledge when it comes to the specifics of anatomy. I can only know it by the best way I know how; by observing people in real life. Not that I stalk people! XD So that pretty much explain how 'simple' my approach is. I'm still learning as of now, and hoping to improve in that field, but thank you so much.

Haha thank you! It's hard to draw someone realistically than cartoonizing them. ;w;

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klimaanlage [2013-05-13 22:44:05 +0000 UTC]

Hahaha, breast are still part of the body and follow gravity! Hahah, aaah, wonderful, thank you very much. You made my day.

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TwiliCuckoo [2013-05-13 21:21:46 +0000 UTC]

so useful ~

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ViceDra [2013-05-13 17:33:54 +0000 UTC]

This is cool dude.

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paintpink [2013-05-13 14:08:31 +0000 UTC]

is absolutely perfect !!!!
I will use much!
(i love tony,is sexy *-----Β¬*)

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Woobak [2013-05-13 12:34:19 +0000 UTC]

I have a question about the breast part, what if they have implants? XD
And if you don't mean to be realistic you can always experiment with what ever you want :3
I also sort of find it hard to draw noses some times, when I do realistic art, but all in all they aren't quite so hard to draw 030
Thanks for the advice most of it I knew for example about the eyes being one eye apart from each other but all in all it was pretty helpful ^^

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Think-Analyze-BeYou [2013-05-13 08:57:23 +0000 UTC]

I HIGHLY recommend that nobody uses celebrity photos for anatomy. If anyone sees this: please, trust me, celebrity photos (specifically ones for women) are almost always photoshopped so that their bodies meet impossible standards. I don't blame you for having unrealistic women in this tutorial, because that's the inevitable result of using celebrity photos. It's not a good idea, the media photoshops beautiful people to look thinner and perkier and not at all real, to make the rest of us feel inadequate. Don't use celebrity photos for anatomyyyyyy!

Overall, I'm definitely not perfect with anatomy myself, but we all have to keep learning and moving forward! I'm not trying to point you out on mistakes, I just wanna make a PSA about how decieving the media can be. The pic of smexy RDJ may not be anatomically photoshopped, so it's good, but like I said, you never know for sure, especially for women because it's not amateurs doing it, these people are really good at photoshop.

Anyways, I like the style of art, and its nice n' easy to follow. But I also agree with the title. XD

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stardazzle In reply to Think-Analyze-BeYou [2013-05-13 12:23:22 +0000 UTC]

Believe me, I totally agree with you. XD
I've been aware of the fact that most celebrity photos are deceivingly photoshopped---that's not new to me. Initially, I was supposed to pick someone more handsome, but thought since it could get a little hard to tell which photo is true and which is not...I pick RDJ as my guinea pig XD But thank you for taking the time to point it out!

Ah yes, the title is a warning in itself not to take this too seriously.

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TheFelinianWithWings [2013-05-13 03:34:38 +0000 UTC]

This is far more useful than most of the guides here.

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stardazzle In reply to TheFelinianWithWings [2013-05-13 03:38:03 +0000 UTC]

Thank you.
But please, believe me, there are guides far more helpful than this and far more accurate. And there's no better way to learn anatomy than real life.

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TheFelinianWithWings In reply to stardazzle [2013-05-13 03:42:00 +0000 UTC]

Not that many on dev that are as easy to understand as yours.

I had a mannequin I used to use all the time, but I sort of..broke the hand off. Not sure how I did that either, but it happened. Now it's only good for pirates....

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EvilVampireDucky [2013-05-13 03:07:58 +0000 UTC]

If you ever make another guide thing, I have a suggestion for arm length to torso; the elbow is suppose to be at the bottom of the ribcage/just above the belly button (which you did successfully) and the wrist is supposed to be level to the crotch (the arm lengths themselves are fine, but it seems to meβ€”especially the girlβ€” that their lower abdomens (waist to groin) needs to be extended.)

Other than that, it seems to be fairly accurate.

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stardazzle In reply to EvilVampireDucky [2013-05-13 03:12:45 +0000 UTC]

Thank you for the suggestions! Yeah, I still have a problem with anatomy, but I truly appreciate your help.

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EvilVampireDucky In reply to stardazzle [2013-05-13 14:14:11 +0000 UTC]

You're welcome~ and dont worry, even great artists have problems with anatomy and not so great ones like me

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AnotherCatMan [2013-05-13 03:03:34 +0000 UTC]

despite of being flawed and inaccurate.This is a handy reference :3

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Scr1b3 [2013-05-13 03:00:55 +0000 UTC]

Wow!

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AzucenaLucero [2013-05-13 02:58:15 +0000 UTC]

you took your time explaining the shape of big boobs, why didn't you do it with big dicks as well?
just wondering

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Scr1b3 In reply to AzucenaLucero [2013-05-13 07:40:48 +0000 UTC]

Because you can't help but see their shape through what she's wearing. It's not so obvious with men

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JuliSketch [2013-05-13 02:38:43 +0000 UTC]

Thanks for sharing this with us!!!!!!!!!

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Scr1b3 In reply to holly660 [2013-05-13 07:40:06 +0000 UTC]

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