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Description I got banned from reporting because I reported to many art thieves and other such violations of the rules



Wow. So much attention lately! Thanks everyone!
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Eternityechos In reply to ??? [2011-03-22 21:32:05 +0000 UTC]

People, You are blocked from filing complaints because you have abused this privilege. Sending in so many reports that are FALSE about 75% as Chix0r stated, results in you being banned from filing complaints. Think before you submit something as a violation, its pretty simple.
This simple misunderstanding has turned into something completely different.

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mordrelupis In reply to Eternityechos [2011-03-22 23:43:01 +0000 UTC]

Never dismiss anything as stereotypical when you don't know all the facts. Just a hint.

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Eternityechos In reply to mordrelupis [2011-03-22 23:52:15 +0000 UTC]

Just a hint, the information was from $chix0r 's comments below.

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VacuityMechanica In reply to Eternityechos [2011-03-22 23:32:04 +0000 UTC]

Don't assume I didn't know what I was doing when I filed the reports, that's just insulting to my intelligence.

I only filed reports that I was 100% sure about.

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Eternityechos In reply to VacuityMechanica [2011-03-22 23:51:25 +0000 UTC]

You were 100% sure. Turns out most of them were false reports. You may have been sure, but they were dismissed. There was no reason to do this.

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NixillUmbreon In reply to Eternityechos [2011-03-26 03:43:37 +0000 UTC]

Hrm... Stupid "post first think later" instinct. Ignore my post please.

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Eternityechos In reply to NixillUmbreon [2011-03-26 03:47:27 +0000 UTC]

It happens to everyone, didn't see a thing.

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NixillUmbreon In reply to Eternityechos [2011-03-26 03:42:13 +0000 UTC]

How would you know they were dismissed? You do not appear to be staff.

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VacuityMechanica In reply to Eternityechos [2011-03-22 23:56:00 +0000 UTC]

There was every reason to do this.

deviantART made a mistake, they did something stupid - I'm calling them out on it.

As it is, I'm still receiving 'Your Violation Report on deviation 'XX' ' notes from deviatART and they says they agree with me and the work has been removed, despite those reports being ones they banned me from reporting.

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Eternityechos In reply to VacuityMechanica [2011-03-23 00:01:33 +0000 UTC]

That makes not sense, this is judged on a percentile of total reports. Old, new, it doesn't matter.

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VacuityMechanica In reply to Eternityechos [2011-03-23 00:05:30 +0000 UTC]

It makes perfect sense, if you remember what I wrote in other messages. I never filed any reports without 100% sure I was correct. 100% sure. Therefore, the only reports they could have banned me for are the ones they think are right and are still answering.

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Eternityechos In reply to VacuityMechanica [2011-03-23 00:09:07 +0000 UTC]

May I see some of these deviations?
It would help immensely if I were able to see from your point of view.

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VacuityMechanica In reply to Eternityechos [2011-03-23 00:21:08 +0000 UTC]

The ones I reported? I lost my ability to report over a year ago, so it stands to reason the ones you'd want to see are ones I reported over a year ago. I'm not obsessive-compulsive about keep track of everything I do outside yesterday and today, so I can honestly say I don't keep tabs on them after that long.

I'll often keep tabs on the artist, but after a while I remove it as they clog up my bookmarks, or the reports have been answered.


As for the ones that have been answered, they've been taken down, and as thus you can't see them.

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TheBadgerClaws In reply to VacuityMechanica [2011-03-23 01:06:59 +0000 UTC]

Err... over a year ago? Then why was this posted in December?

Also, I feel like pointing out something. You keep talking about the approved reports, yet we have no proof from you that you've never received a notification that what you sent in was false. In fact, you've ignored that entire point of Eternityechos's comments. So what if you have a lot that were taken care of? According to $chix0r , you had 75% that were counted as false claims. You're not exactly denying the fact that this is true, you're just trying to protect the fact that you had claims that were right - which is not exactly the point of this.

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Eternityechos In reply to VacuityMechanica [2011-03-23 00:36:37 +0000 UTC]

Well at least they are gone.

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ShadowsGal101 In reply to ??? [2011-03-22 21:21:41 +0000 UTC]

/headdesk Wow, DA. Just wow.........if I didn't hate Photobucket and Tinypic so much or if there was another artist website out there, I'd leave to join them in a blink. DA is becoming totally screwed.

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ZeroRaptor In reply to ShadowsGal101 [2011-03-24 07:57:35 +0000 UTC]

[link]

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ShadowsGal101 In reply to ZeroRaptor [2011-03-24 18:57:55 +0000 UTC]

Thanks for the link!!!

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Zetsu-0-Sakura In reply to ??? [2011-03-22 21:17:37 +0000 UTC]

I just lost faith to the dA admins now...

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RoxannexIxAm In reply to ??? [2011-03-22 21:14:58 +0000 UTC]

Dammit to hell. That's not right.
Shit. Now I'm paranoid to report anything.

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Eternityechos In reply to RoxannexIxAm [2011-03-22 21:34:10 +0000 UTC]

No reason to be. As $chix0r stated, you are banned from filing complaints due to you submitting so many false complaints. If 75 percent of them are false, you may be banned from filing them.
Just know that what you are reporting is in fact a violation.

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RoxannexIxAm In reply to Eternityechos [2011-03-22 21:38:41 +0000 UTC]

Oh. Alright.
A misinterpretation. Well, it's not the end of the world if I get banned from that since most of mine always came in valid.

But I still call bull on this.

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Eternityechos In reply to RoxannexIxAm [2011-03-22 21:49:46 +0000 UTC]

Calling bull on a security measure?
The deviant filed false complaints. Purposely or not, it will save time in the end. It sounds harsh, but you have to think of this from the perspective of administration. They go through thousands of complaints a day. Some legit others false. This user files a large number of complaints, not just 10 or something, and 75 percent of those are false. Wouldn't you like to have that shortened just a little? Also, most deviations that are reported are reported multiple times and some use reporting as a method of attack against a certain artist or theme. It could be multiple things. We as normal users will most likely never know exactly why it happened and under what circumstances, but it was needed at the time.

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RoxannexIxAm In reply to Eternityechos [2011-03-22 21:51:02 +0000 UTC]

TL;DR.

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Eternityechos In reply to RoxannexIxAm [2011-03-22 21:52:48 +0000 UTC]

Too many complaints that were false. Simplified it for you.

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RoxannexIxAm In reply to Eternityechos [2011-03-22 21:54:34 +0000 UTC]

But did you see the complaints that were filed? How would you know if this is the case or not?

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Eternityechos In reply to RoxannexIxAm [2011-03-22 21:57:41 +0000 UTC]

Because of what Chix0r just posted. OTL
"You were blocked from sending in any more reports due to the high level of incorrect reports. We monitor this quite closely and when someone reaches around 75% of incorrect reports, we tend to review and then block.

This way, we don't have our desk filling up with incorrect reports -- reports that present incorrect stats and cause unnecessary backlog, and allows us to get to correct reports in a swifter manner."

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RoxannexIxAm In reply to Eternityechos [2011-03-22 22:02:21 +0000 UTC]

I just finally got the comments to load there. Slow browser.

But I see now. But still. I have seen cases where the staff has not followed the sites own rules. Some reports that should have been valid were not. Such as one on a deviation that clearly broke the sites ToS with content of masturbation and underage nudity. But who am I to try and argue the staff.

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Eternityechos In reply to RoxannexIxAm [2011-03-22 22:14:18 +0000 UTC]

That is a flaw within the system. But we have to understand, they are humans and humans make errors. What one may call a violation may be just on the line to another. Child nudity is high priority for the administration team. Has the deviation been deleted?

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RoxannexIxAm In reply to Eternityechos [2011-03-22 22:20:19 +0000 UTC]

Okay then.

No. It has not.
I can link it to you if necessary. It's a girl playing with her twat on her period.

[link]
I'm linking it anyhow. It's repulsive.

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Eternityechos In reply to RoxannexIxAm [2011-03-22 22:24:34 +0000 UTC]

That's pretty sad.
The reports were declined to do not containing enough information. I don't see how you could make it any more detailed as the character is not from an anime or manga that could attach a age.

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RoxannexIxAm In reply to Eternityechos [2011-03-22 22:26:49 +0000 UTC]

Well. It is obvious she is underage. But still the fact it's masturbation, which is against the rules, am I not right?

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Eternityechos In reply to RoxannexIxAm [2011-03-22 22:29:09 +0000 UTC]

It is if it is in a way meant to elicit a sexual response from a viewer.
This is a violation. OTL

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RoxannexIxAm In reply to Eternityechos [2011-03-22 22:30:58 +0000 UTC]

Okay. Good, I hope the staff sees through and removes it.

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Eternityechos In reply to RoxannexIxAm [2011-03-22 22:34:22 +0000 UTC]

I am sure they will. You may want to report it directly to $chix0r in the form of a note.

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RoxannexIxAm In reply to Eternityechos [2011-03-22 22:38:48 +0000 UTC]

And that I did.

Thank you for being helpful in this conversation. I see you play helpful well.

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darkrosefairy77 In reply to ??? [2011-03-22 20:59:09 +0000 UTC]

Good gods, how many reports did you make?

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VacuityMechanica In reply to darkrosefairy77 [2011-03-22 23:33:09 +0000 UTC]

1 more than they could be arsed reading, it would seem.

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Eternityechos In reply to darkrosefairy77 [2011-03-22 21:35:15 +0000 UTC]

Enough for about 75% of them to be false.

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DeadSweet In reply to Eternityechos [2011-03-22 22:14:46 +0000 UTC]

You would only have had to make four complaints total for this to occur. Seeing as 75% = 3/4
lern2math

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Eternityechos In reply to DeadSweet [2011-03-22 22:20:30 +0000 UTC]

What the hell?
It doesn't have to be a small number and I am pretty sure they wouldn't resort to banning after 3 out of 4 came up negative. This would have to be a significant amount.
Also, learn to spell.

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DeadSweet In reply to Eternityechos [2011-03-22 22:47:42 +0000 UTC]

Three out of four IS seventy five percent. There is no difference between the two. If three out of four are reported incorrectly then they review your case and decide whether to ban you from reporting or not.
I can spell, learn to irony.

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Eternityechos In reply to DeadSweet [2011-03-22 22:49:15 +0000 UTC]

It wouldn't be for a small number. This was for many reports not just four.
Learn to use proper grammar.

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DeadSweet In reply to Eternityechos [2011-03-22 23:00:17 +0000 UTC]

I wasn't talking about the specific instance at hand. I was merely stating the fact that a person would only have had to file four policy violations, three of which being false, in order to have them banned from posting further policy violation reports.
Again, learn to irony.

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NixillUmbreon In reply to DeadSweet [2011-03-26 03:48:05 +0000 UTC]

If you're gonna be THAT specific they only need to file one.

One false complaint and zero true ones = 100% false

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DeadSweet In reply to NixillUmbreon [2011-03-26 17:12:32 +0000 UTC]

No, that isn't how it works. I'm not being that specific, the policy states that if seventy five percent of your reports are incorrect ones, that they will be reviewed and then you may be banned from submitting more. You can't have one report that's seventy five percent wrong.

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NixillUmbreon In reply to DeadSweet [2011-03-29 04:02:58 +0000 UTC]

But this would really mean "75% or more", would it not? You can have one report that is 100% wrong, and then 100% of your reports would be wrong.

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DeadSweet In reply to NixillUmbreon [2011-03-30 03:45:00 +0000 UTC]

No, it would mean at least seventy five percent. It doesn't work like that because that is a jump from zero percent to one hundred percent, it must pass through seventy five percent first. Which one report cannot do. The minimum requirement is four reports.

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Eternityechos In reply to DeadSweet [2011-03-22 23:15:21 +0000 UTC]

Again, learn that this was not due to four complaints.

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DeadSweet In reply to Eternityechos [2011-03-22 23:28:32 +0000 UTC]

I just said that I know this. That is what "I wasn't talking about the specific instance at hand." Means.

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