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I don't know if 'Transphobia' is new and for one sake, I'm not into changing my body for operation purposes. So I guess I'm not a transgender.But I do believe in that in terms of spirituality, spiritual DNA changing, etc. But I think that's another story.
But after seeing that horrible 'Imgur' post about it, I decided to research this, and I realized that Transgender is actually not accepted.
I see suicide reports of it due to people bullying them, and see disgusting comments saying "Well, that proves transgender is an illness!" "Suicide is a choice, so let them", "don'tz force socizety to accept transgenderz!", "transgender is an illness!!!", etc. NOTE: These are not exact quotes.
All the transgender phobia is actually widely accepted.
The only comment I've seen that was pro with a lot of 'likes' (or something) was a reply to a bigoted comment.
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This is also why the world is still shit.
And since when was wanting to be yourself a fucking "illness"?
Yes, accepting people for 'who they are' is a good thing, but a body isn't the heart. If you REALLY accepted people for who they are, then you would accept the fact that not everyone wants to have the same fucking body, and accept that for who they are. Clearly some ideas of "accepting" is all wrong.
Now as for 'Mental Illnesses', things like this is why I don't believe 'Mental Illnesses' exist.
Hell, as for being 'confused'. Confused is a natural human reaction to something, and uncomfortably is also a natural human response.
I think this delusion of so-called "mental illness" is based off stupidity as well.
But looking at all the hate, it's just like the hate against homosexuality, with bigoted "it's not hatez it's truth!" crap too.
And I've might of seen one argument against a person who question on 'how' it's a "mental illness" and I think I saw the reaction saying "But wherz the profo that it'z not?"
OK, where the hell is the proof that it IS? BOTH SIDES NEED EVIDENCE.
I once said that the 'CORE' of hate is still there, and I was right. And proving that society is nothing but a hypocrite piece of crap. Showing that they don't really mean it when they are like "DO WTAT YOU WANTZ".
Might as well call it "Do what we want unless it's this, or that".
I thought the world was better than this? But of course, it's still very delusional, believing in unscientific things like "mental illnesses", etc.
NOTE: Some 'mental "illnesses"' might exist. But I'm talking about ridiculous ways of using it like calling unique sleep experiences "mental illnesses", having a belief a "mental illness", etc.
It's not. It's completely normal to have any belief you want. And it's even normal to be confused sometimes, and even normal to feel 'uncomfortable'.
That's natural, and the real truth.
Also,
yes, this subject is new to me a bit. So I'm not sure if the hate is actually new or not. I fear this hate just raised.
It seems every support is bombed by our bigoted 'big media' (Which by the way, sucks still).
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It is a mental illness because Transgenders have Gender disphoria. Gender Disphoria is being born as the wrong gender. Educate yourself.
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The idea that "Gender dysphoria" is the case and it's a "mental illness" is still an opinion, and if a transgender is actually ENJOYING their life as one, then it's not a mental illness for that person.
Besides, I've heard they've updated the book to remove something that makes some people think transgender is an illness.
nypost.com/2019/05/30/world-heβ¦
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"if you say, being trans is a mental illness, you're transphobic!"
sounds exactly like this, to me:
"I AM A PROUD TRANS PERSON! AND I DON`T WANNA BE COMPARED TO THOSE FILTHY MENTAL DEFECTIVES!"
as if you hate people with mental illnesses...
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Your right!
It is not an illness!
It is confusion about what gender really is!
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mental illnesses exist and you're a disgusting ablest if you think otherwise
transgender = gender dysphoria
gender dysphoria is a mental illness where the brain doesn't match the body e.g males brain with female body, causing you to want to transition to the sex your brain thinks it needs. if you don't, your brain could remain confused and cause you severe distress and other things of that variety.
mental illnesses do, and always have, existed. but just because being trans is derived from a mental disorder, doesn't mean it's unacceptable. yes, some people do believe its still wrong, but that's just mainly because of their religion.
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idk if i'd classify transsexualism as a "mental illness" but it is a physiological disorder (typically called "gender identity disorder"/"gender in-congruence"/"gender dysphoria") wherein the brain and body's sex characteristic are misalligned. still a sort of disorder between the brain and body
also sorry but mental illnesses still exist lol
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Bad science.
"gender dysphoria" as a "mental illness" is no different than just calling homosexuality a mental illness.
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transgender = gender dysphoria/gender identity disorder
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That's just bad science.
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neither is a fetish
people seem to agree with this but think that vore is a psychopathic mental illness
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I honestly hate people who think vore is a "psychopathic mental illness", it's ridiculous because since when does liking vore it's self cause suffering of others and/or self-harm?
Even if someones wants some pain (E.g. BDSM), I don't know if 'illness' is the right word. xD
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the mtf creeps me the fuck out
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I dislike some fetishes (like the foot fetish, scat, diapers, ESPECIALLY [loli/shota]con)
But it doesn't mean they have to be shit on by everyone unless they like scat so that wouldnt be a bad thing i guess because of their fetish.
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I agree that mental illnesses are just ways to name things that are wrong with people. Bipolar Disorder is really just rapid moodswings that happen whenever. Split Personality Disorder is just you having multiple personifications of yourself or what you wish to be. Like Nicki Minaj...I guess?
But like you said, homosexuality, or any sexuality for that matter is a choice and not a mental illness. It only relates to what you feel attracted to.
However, much like the previous argument, I do not understand why you are calling people who believe in mental illnesses delusional, yet saying that it's alright to believe whatever you want.
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It's completely normal to have any belief you want.
"...it's still very delusional, believing in unscientific things like "mental illnesses","
So it's okay to believe in anything you want but if you believe in mental illnesses you're delusional? What?
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It's a normal function to believe anything. Even if your wrong.
Not that I would defend certain beliefs like that though.
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I'm so confused as to what you're trying to say here. All those quotes were things you said in the description.
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I thought you were trying to suggest I was not making any sense on the two quotes.
I was saying like for the first one, even if you are somewhat delusional (not that I'm suggesting it is for my own spiritual beliefs, etc. just a point), it's normal to be wrong about someone if you possibly ended up being wrong.
If you mean it's not delusional to believe in mental illnesses. Then oh.
I don't believe it is real because it's only a made up term. To the point that it may have described people who has certain beliefs as a "mental illness" when actually, it's understandable by having those beliefs, because it's all unique.
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That is what I'm saying. From where I stand, they look like contradictory quotes.
First you say that it's normal to believe anything you want. Then you say that believing in mental illnesses is "delusional."?
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It's ok to believe what you want unless it offends him.
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Ah. One of those. Understand now.
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Please don't listen to MrSandman. He's kinda an ass toward me.
What offends me is cyberbullying, and anything that promotes anti-freedom, or something.
Anyway yeah because what I'm saying is that it can be 'normal' to believe something that doesn't exist too. Having mistakes or whatever this is called is 'normal' too. Of course, I'm not suggesting to do more mistakes. xD
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Ahaha. You know I'm speaking of you.
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If I may, mental illnesses themselves DO actually exist, like Schizophrenia, Alzheimer's Disease, Othello Syndrome, Tardive Dyskinezia,Β and other things.
But Transgenderism, like you said, is not one of them.
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Yes, such as those. Bipolar Disorder isn't a mental illness, neither is Anger Issues, or Split Personality Disorder. Those are all just names for what some people do.
Those, do exist. A part of your brain so messed up, it causes you to act like a traumatized brat, and see and hear things nonexistant? Easy Schizophrenic right there.
Some are real, some are just covers for idiotic things people make a huge deal over.
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>Β having a belief a "mental illness"
Think of all the stories about guys murdering people on the bus because "God told them to", or the people who genuinely believe they're not human or something. Such beliefs aren't normal, and are the result of mental illness. It's not actually normal to believe and act on these things.
Actually being transgender comes from having a brain that isn't formed to properly match the body it's in. Males and females have different brain structures, and any deformities could result in gender confusion. As deformities are not normal, it is a kind of illness, but we don't classify it as such because of "muh social justice". However, being a mental illness does not by any means make it morally wrong; I mean, if they're not hurting anyone, might as well let them believe what makes them happy.
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The term doesn't make sense. An Illness is about a body not acting right (That seems to make more sense). Beliefs are naturally unique from another (normal), including terrible beliefs like your murder example (Which I still agree to be bad, just still need to make this other point). You seem to indicate that it's somehow an "illness" because it does what's considered 'morally wrong'.
While I agree that action like that (belief to murder) is horrible, it still doesn't make any scientific sense to use that term.
I don't know. The idea of 'deformation', and etc. are only opinions. Isn't evolution all about that in some way? If a 'deform' causes something really great, then I don't find it an illness, but a natural process of something else.
I know you said 'confusion', though, being 'confused' is also a natural thing. But I still think it's all beliefs..
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No, beliefs aren't illnesses; nonsensical beliefs are often the result of mental illness. That is, they're symptom of illness, not illness itself. That's not to say that every ridiculous belief is sign of mental illness, however. It really has nothing to do with morality; it's related to a malfunctioning brain.
The word "deformity" refers to when a part of the body isn't in the shape/condition it should normally be in. What is/isn't normal is objective, normality just refers to what occurs most regularly-- it has nothing to do with opinion.Β
Evolution happens over the course of thousands and thousands of years in an environment where natural selection can occur. Unfortunately, that doesn't really happen in modern society, where we mistakenly believe everyone deserves a chance at life. Furthermore, there's really nothing practically useful about dysphoria.Β
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Forgive the hodge-podge nature of the reply... It's a rough idea.
From a quick scan of the text I find it quite contradictory what these people are saying...
Although, granted transgender identity is not an illness, why would you have such vitriol for someone who has an illness?
I don't see many people hating on cancer sufferers or schitzophrenics - if they do then they are likely to be seen as despicable.
We are stuck for now, (I'm not transgender - granted my current reproductive set up is fun and functional - I can't help but think 'God' should have made it a bit more asthetically pleasing than a brackwurst in a turtleneck with two walnuts dangling underneath...)
though I would think that on a biological level if you have an XY set up you are a male and XX you are female - extra 'X' and 'Y's notwithstanding - XXY and XO are medical conditions... Not necessarily 'diseases' as they do not necessarily cause any suffering to the carriers.
The root of this problem, or at least one tendril growing out from the root is our 'dichotomy of gender' in Westernised societies - it's very binary - either one or the other. 1 or 0 - yes or no, black or white... Anything that contradicts or falls between this rather oversimplified model tends to get stick for it.
In other cultures (according to a popular yoof magazine from the meeja - which I shall not name as they went from interesting articles to things an angsty teen would point at and shriek "Look at that - different! Oooh.... Different - I am sooooo full of angst and angry confusion at a reality that gets more and more complicated the closer I look!" as they dip dye their hair another hue of parental disdain) it was indicated that some places recognise up to 4-5 genders - I have no idea what they are, but in the Phillipenes (that may be one of the areas described? It was a while back) that's quite normal.
Why not? The 'transgender' in the West might be gender number 3 or 4 in another culture and they won't see it as such a big deal.
We need to remember that most online users (the reason anything outwith the idiosyncratically established 'normal values') are likely to be W.A.S.Ps White Anglo-Saxon Protestants - and therefore find anything different threatening. It's the stupidest who often shout the loudest instead of stepping back and pondering the situation.
A mental illness causes suffering - if you aren't suffering (or in the cases of sociopaths/psychopaths - causing suffeing to others through your actions and being an inconvenience to society at large) then it's not a disease, it's something else.
Who decided what's what anyway? There's no empirical 'man' value or 'woman' vlaue and therefore is really quite meaningless - the Universe doesn't care - there's no physical law to define gender and therefore it is fluid... Like most human behaviour it is dictated more by arbitrary barriers we put up ourselves than an any natural laws.
Unfortunately, the world is full of idiots and it is probably the best course of action to ignore their stupidity and let them suffocate from lack of attention to their nonsense.
Bugger it, shrug your shoulders and we can accept that we came from nothing, we shall return to nothing and nothing really matters on the grandest scales anyway...
I've found solace in not visiting these web pages as the majority of people wouldn't say a word if you were outside on the highstreet... Stuttering dribble lipped morons uttering nonsense to themselves instead of coming up to you and asking "Why have you decided this is the way you wish to live? I am curious..."Β and 'real' interaction is a better barometer for what the majority find 'acceptable' (even though it doesn't really matter if you've got enough courage to defy it - let's face it - most of us keep quiet for an easier day) and screw the screaming masks on the internet.
Bugger it!
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So you only believe in mental illnesses that have been confirmed by psychologists?
Same here pretty much.Β
Though I do think the urge to be transgender has something to do with the cells and stuff that make the gender undecided when forming the fetus. It explains why young children are transgender. I can understand why one might compare it to aspergers for example due to this.Β
But its as natural as a baby being born with teeth. Different, but nothing wrong or bad, and certainly does not make them "ill"
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Not too sure, some of them may act like their really is when it's still possibly not science. xD
Interesting.
I guess the reason why this really made me care a lot was because some might think that wanting to 'change' your body is an "illness" (Choice or not) but I don't agree at all. This includes spiritual stuff.
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Idk if you saw my stamp on a similar subject, but it said this:
Being homosexual is like having a disease?!Β
Well, we better call the Make a Wish foundation...
So we can send all the gays off to DISNEYLAND!!!Β
People with diseases/mental illnesses are often treated better than the ones who are just fine. There are companies like Make a Wish foundation that even gives them the money to "make their dreams come true". Like send them to disneyland, meet a famous person, etc.Β
So its a pretty weak insult when one thinks about it, and backfires since the person calling them "diseased" is implying they treat diseased people badly too, making them twice the bigot they already are.Β
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I saw but mainly ignored it maybe. xD
My main problem of course is treating something enjoyable an "illness". I also saw an example of a possible bigot who found it "sick" when people want to change there body to be happy. (This was on a transgender subject I think)
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Oh well. Within a few years it will be considered a normal thing to do. Remember, women, blacks, petty theives (who stole food for survival) and pregnant women out of wedlock were considered "evil", but nowadays are not bullied by the majority of society.Β
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Anyone who starts out by accusing you of a mental illness probably is not worth the time to debate unless you know you can own them in front of a bunch of people. They probably have something wrong with themselves, like the typical fundamentalist persecution complex or something. Those would be the people we bury.
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Yes it's actually natural transgender peoples cells haven't decided on a gender quick enough (I think I'm talking about the right thing born with both right?)
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