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It really pisses me off when I see a common heterosexual or a common homosexual go out and say that "Fetishes are grossz!!" as if their 'non-fetish' version of sexuality was somehow "less gross".I'm sorry but are you expecting people to believe that a disgusting human kiss or boobs to be 'less extreme' than someone showing their 'foot', or making a super fatty furry, or some tamed down vore?
You know what? I find 'human kissing' and 'boobs' far extreme than a simple 'sexy foot' and a fatty. Tamed down vore is just as "extreme" as kissing.
Being from my heart for the sake of acceptance: Just because someone's own sexual identity is labeled a "fetish", doesn't fucking mean it's "more extreme" than someone's identity that "isn't a fetish".
If someone has a tamed down fetish, then it should NOT be labeled more extreme than human kissing. It should be accepted like it.
Having a "fetish" is just a part of your orientation, a way of how you like someone. I have one at least maybe and it made me result into very similar 'romantic' feelings, though, I'm more of the furry kind, but yeah.
Back to the main stamp argument and more personal:
When you say "A fetish" is more extreme than a "non-fetish" because you don't like it, then that means your shitty "non-fetish" crap is more of the other way from a person who doesn't like to see two humans kiss or show their boobies.
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Because of all the hatred and unfair labeling like "fetishes", I feel almost like a 'homophobia' or 'heterophobia'. I mean, my sexuality might be under both of those but in a different style (Like I am probably a bisexual furry and no certain likes toward humans) but because of the hate, I can probably feel extremely emotionally mad whenever I see two human 'love'. I'm sorry but I do.
Why? Maybe it's because of the sense of UNEQUALLY I been getting from certain fucking humans who are intolerant toward those who are different (But are still the same in another way) and probably a little might be a sense of judgement and less sexual freedom even in a human relationship.
I even been told by someone that I make a fandom look "bad" and one of his/her's bad reasons was because of me and my 'fetishes' with the characters I love, but in reality, the real fault are those who find the fandom bad for... people enjoying themselves.
Another fucking thing I hate are those stupid dumbass 'Gay Relationship' haters. They claim that "OMZZ IT MAKESZ HOMOSEXUALZ LOOK BADZ!!!!!".
What so when a type of gay relationship through Fan Fiction is different and based off someone's identity (including Furry bisexual identity), it makes the whole place look "bad"? Just because of what people may think about them?
So let me get this straight, we must eliminate all different gay relationships (CENSORSHIP) and make yet, a REAL stereotypical single 'normal' one.
I'm sorry but the real offense is the censorship of that and (and or) the single 'normal' suggestion.
And the unique gay relationship (So-called "unrealistic") isn't always about purposely stereotyping them.
Anyway, I wanted to say another thing. I seen a horrible cyberbully (The same guy who believes cyberbullying doesn't exist) around who won't stop bitching about people with their fetishes. He makes videos about 'DA-User's' gallery or something about the user involving his/her's 'fetishes'. They are hate videos, they are 'shaming' and based off prejudice bigoted judgement against those who like to express themselves. Here is a lin... oh wait I probably shouldn't do that because of the content this bully shows.
He may also make ED articles about people to humiliate them for something that isn't even wrong. I know it's supposed to be a joke site, but this is one of those guys who don't joke about people maybe.
And he can do other things.
......Because of this whole thing, this is one of the STRONGEST reasons as to why I'm a misanthropic.
Reason 1 - No tolerance.
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Jeez thank you, seriously it get annoying how people who ironically fetish stuff like kissing, boobs, and abs are teling other what they're find nice disgusting.
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I fantasize about rape. Is... That the same thing as a fetish..?
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Legit. This is legit. I haven't figured out my fetishes yet but someday I will.
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Β no im just playing I do agree with you tho
I don't really care about fetishes I just don't care for all the sexual stuff that gets on the front pageΒ e tΒ c
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what if i DO believe common sexual practices are disgusting
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So a feces fetish or necrophelia is on par with kissing......... wow this is a weak argument.
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That's an opinion you know. Yeah I don't adapt to popular belief, even if it's hard to avoid it.
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Everyone has a fetish.
If someone is a hetero and loves only hetero people, (s)he has a fetish and (s)he is a heterophile.
If someone is an adult and loves only other adults, (s)he has a fetish and (s)he is a teleiophile.
If someone thinks that only the 'normal' and legal things that his/her religion accepts is sexy, (s)he has a fetish and (s)he is a normophile.
etc
Only asexuals can be without any fetishes.
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Very interesting. xD
In a way, it's kinda true.. The term 'fetish' is just a term too.
Hmm for your last part, I heard some asexuals can have certain types of pleasure, but wouldn't have sex with a person. I may need to study this more...
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in my honest opinion I hate fetishes, especially inflation cause they abuse mostly women with that one, I can handle bondage to a low point but that's it. Mostly they're repulsive and offensive to a certain sex, some male some female.
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As long if you can try to respect those who like it, then I don't see a moral problem much.
It's possible that some of those women in the art can enjoy it by the artist and I wouldn't find it offensive if the arts are not purposely trying to offend those who don't like it.
imo, if others find a fetish offensive, I have the right to find human kissing offended too, but if I had to argue by heart, I don't think something that's based off personal enjoyment not being forced should be considered that and those who hate it can try to ignore it. xD
(Some sex can enjoy it, those who find it offensive should avoid it too)
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it is hard for me to avoid since my friend draws it all the damn time... he knows I don't like it, and in fact he agreed to keep it to a minimum for myself and another friend who dislikes it... but he's pushing the boundary way far.
I can respect people's opinions on things, but people often attack me if I think differently, which is a shame.
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Hmm maybe you could always try to deal with it being around? Enless maybe it's just beyond the tamed down version? Example, I see a lot of stuff I extremely hate through movies, shows, etc. but I don't go out and complain (Unless it's something like this stamp to probably make a point). Anything around them can be offensive, but sometimes I think people could try to go through with it if you know what I mean, as it's not exactly forced for example: If your friend draws it, but if your friend tries to push it right into your face, then yeah that's not very great. - But if you make your friend who isn't doing that to stop.. being himself, then isn't that offensive to him?
I think it depends on how you express your hatred on some fetishes. If you just go to someone and tell them to stop, but they were not exactly purposely rubbing it in your face, then you may get some criticism back toward the opinion. xD
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I didn't go and say "stop it's gross" or some crap, I explained to hi, it was a bit excesive and that I'm offended by it, a few others don't like it either, we aren't rude about it though.
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Yeah but it's possible that could be rude too.
Example: What if someone said that to your expression, or your icon? When they could learn to respect others who also likes to be open?
Again I would probably find it more fair if you said that to him if he was forcing it down your throat. xD
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It's all about opinions you know. You love something and somebody else might aswell find it hideous.
Expressing your sexuality or fetish too clearly however is too much and freaky in my opinion. I honestly don't want to know what happens in the bedroom.Β
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Well I'm mainly referring to allow people to express their stuff in tamed down ways and those who hate seeing that could ignore it if they don't want to know it. (However main identity should be accepted in public like how the pride of LGBT can be.)
If it's in extreme ways (e.g. porn) then that should be more restricted just like a more extreme version of a 'fetish'. xD But I mean it would be expressed, but under some age restriction. xD
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I still do not think its right to hate hetrosexuals or human+human relationships just because some people find them "right". Hating the opposite of yourself is not really helping the opposite respect your opinion now does it? xD
If they get mad at you for being opposite, you should not hate on others for being opposite. There is a big different between franchises and real people after all, and bad exerience or not, hating other people over what some people in their community is like a teacher punishing the whole class over what one child did.Β
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Well I feel like I should because I am sick of getting the 'unfair'/'unequally' feeling. It's kinda like a "Why should I give respect to those who can't equally respect me?" type of thing. It's almost like a lesson to what they make people react to. (Just like how society made me a misanthropic)
I do not need to not hate it to make things better (Because I do not see what effects this can even cause) and I'm not exactly against heterosexual or homosexual RL love. They can still enjoy it, but they really need to stop judging different things whether it's under either, or even far different. For this, it's just my emotions, and for argument reasoning; no promises though.
Perhaps I only hate those who judge the other differences. If I think about it, if there is a heterosexual common, but is very open minded about differences, and has no unfair judgement, I may not hate those in this subject. It's just sadly there is a lot of commons who are unfair toward others.
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I see. So you only do not support a hetrosexual's sexuality if they do not respect yours? Fair enough.Β
Just do not judge a couple you do not know, cos that is very mean xD
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I may feel to say they are 'disgusting' in a then way if they call mine disgusting. Though I wouldn't always do it maybe, and I could just suggest "How do you like it if.." way.
Yeah I wouldn't go out and just judge them randomly like that. xD
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FUCKING
YES
I'VE BEEN TRYING TO GET THIS POINT TO EVERYONE
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True true. But I wouldn't start to hate haters. They are different and special in their own way AND in a world without stupid people we wouldn't have anything to make fun of.
So just be glad that you aren't one of them.
Now let me make "normal" stuff gross.
Kisses:
You are basically drinking the saliva of another person.
Sex:
The thing the man pees with is being thrusted into the hole the woman bleeds out of once a month.
Anal sex:
It's the hole were poop comes from.
Have I mentioned the loads of bacteria and viruses that come with every human interaction?
I hypothesize that there is no non-gross human interaction. (go ahead and try to prove me wrong xD)
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Humans are gross and it's sad we have to physically interact. Lmao-
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Everyone is different so that's true. But I don't know if hating something in equal back senses is a bad idea and I think we can have a world of less stupid people and probably make fun of something else. (I think it's time to stop the stupidity of this even more since it's been causing a lot of problems. Or something.)
Yeah I hate it when people think stuff like that is less disgusting than a very tamed down fetish.
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Not very clear what you mean. xD
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He means that those problems are not worth getting mad or sad over, compared to the worse problems in the world.Β
Despite this, we all cannot help getting sad over tiny things, but we gotta remember that it could be worse. After all, we do not know what we have until it is gone. Β
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It's just sometimes I need to care about my self in life. If I feel left out, and cannot be happy of the so-called "small" things, I feel no energy to care about the rest.
Yes I disagree it's very tiny because for me, this is more of a bigger problem in terms of expressing yourself. It's very unfair that others get to have a more safe freedom to express what they love, but people like me just "can't" (or else of you know..).
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Perhaps at time you should part youself from society? I mean, for a guy who says he is not a part of it, you sure get involved with it a lot xD
There are plenty of videos and games to occupy yourself. If they are gonna leave you out, have your own fun xD
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Sometimes I can be part of it, but not friendly all the time. Though I can be social with some people. I am with some but they probably don't even know that I go here. xD
I guess I want to be part of society, but they need to be good at accepting others too.
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But society is not just one community, society contains different communities, like how the world has different countires. Some parts of society may be bad, some may be good, just like the world. Why not include yourself in what you consider the good part of society?Β
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I was probably talking about 'Big media'. Though I think probably all main cultures have similar views to random things like 'Furries' for example.
The only society I can view more different than that is some sub-cultures like the Furry Fandom (or part of it) as a good society for example.
If you didn't noticed it, the term 'Separated Society' sounds really good. xD
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But should you judge the whole of society based on some internet trolls bullying furries? Quite frankly, almost everyone replies with "they are fine" when I tell them about furries. Heck, my usual magazine (which is edited and published by obviously old timers) made a positive article on furries last year. And usually old timers are old fashioned LOL
Some people =/= the whole of society. By looking at the whole of society, they mostly do not Β give a crap about furries.Β
maybe you should talk to a lot of everyday people in society about something before saying society is against something? Maybe make a poll?Β
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The big media is often with the same belief that 'furry fetish is bad' (Like that one side you know?). Often I may hear positive toward furries it's self, but I bet that the magazine is going to talk something like this: "Not all furries are into that bad kind of stuff! (Not really bad (depends) but you know what it would say) It's only a tiny majority (Not even true). We should accept furries and make that one side a taboo (In feeling like that)."
I've seen a lot of furry defending saying the same (or close) thing over and over again, and I found it offensive how they compare those type of furry "deviants" to actual bad things like murder, rape, etc. And selfishly defend the "clean" kind only.
I don't know, but every time there is like a mention of 'furry' with 'fetish' or even 'furry', most likely you will see people complain. Or sometimes see very unfair defending in the most strict manner possible or near. If furry was generally accepted, you would see open pictures about them in places like Imgur, and other 'big media' sites. xD
Maybe even the 'type of poses' of anthropomorphic creatures in 'sexy' fashions just like how some people do it with pure-human creatures.
Anyway even hate is so strong that they are probably starting to closed against anime types, not so sure though. Why? Because the 'single normal' belief is probably growing.
I would rather not, from all the experiences, I would guess that it's going to be negative. I would rather not waste my time to see more negative energy.
Also speaking of that, I actually once uploaded a picture to Imgur about defining what a furry was (I think it was this picture ), and even said it was different than that one possible harmless thing (But I did defend that side too because I didn't want to be unfair) and what happened? The picture kept getting down voted. Ended with me taking it down from public, with maybe possible thoughts of something like "It's worse than I thought..".
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That's why I blame Big Media. This trollish stuff here was not only something very negative, but it also reminded how I was right about big media from far past experiences before. I guess this big attack I've experience along with a lot of past experiences just did it big time.
If I saw that big media was accepting and open minded about furry and sexuality, and then I saw all this, then I don't think it would of been the same experience as to what I have now.
Hope I'm clear and I hope I'm not coming out as mean. It's just I wanted to share this experience since you may be thinking that 'big media' is "open". :/
By the way, I think I mean the main majority of society (or big media). Some people in society can actually be open minded about this kind of stuff.
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Acctually, the magazine did not mention the porn whatsoever. I geuss they saw that mentioning the porn would be just as dumb as mentioning the porn in other subjects (like the say, if it exists, there is porn of it).Β
Perhaps its different in Australia? We could not care less about furries, and if the subject arises, we say its people who like to dress as animals and move on. After all, this country is famous for a giant pineapple 
I say the reason why people connect "furry" with "fetish" is because both haters and lovers always talk about it? The lovers always say constantly "I am a furry that does not masterbate", even when the subject of furry porn does NOT arise (no pun intended). Nobody is gonna forget about this small portion of the fandom if everyone keeps bringing it up.
Maybe if we showed what furries CAN do rather than what some MAY do, the hate will die out?Β
I am not against yiffing btw, I am just saying, it is not a big deal, so we all gotta stop making out it is.Β
I see what you mean, but I have average to little to no experience with other societies out of Australia. Maybe Americans make out to be bigger than I thougt, but with that, I cannot really say much
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Yeah maybe, though since it's kinda known and that one side (not just only plain porn, like all sexual identity or something) is very important as an identity to some, I wish they could at least be nice with it and at the same time, not cause confusion. But at least they didn't say anything bad to it.
Oh I see. Though furry means being a fan of anthropomorphic animals or an anthropomorphic themselves. Fursuit isn't a requirement. xD
I don't know. To me, the "fetish" side isn't very small. I think it's a huge 'spiritual' part of someone and that's it's very somewhat popular in the fandom, and I think they should come out in the open under tamed down ways just like the common human stuff.
To me, I think people should stand up for the side. I think people tried to avoid it, but whenever a type of furry expresses the identity even in a tamed down way, a lot of backlash comes on...
Not sure 'what' isn't a big deal? Like you mean the hate around it?
Yeah. USA is probably very different than Australia. Though maybe a lot of people there don't know about that one side and if they knew, I fear they could be just like a lot of people over here..
I do think though, DA is more mixed (Ever heard of DeviantArt? It's a place that looks a lot like this... haha I'm joking.) though, like I do see some people expressing themselves, which is good. Still though, I am not sure if Big Media is getting better, or worse.
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Thats true.Β
Someday I am gonna be a furry, but I am more intrested in the fursuit part than the art. When I get a lot of money I will xDΒ
I rarely ever see furry porn, aside from vore and pregnancy fetish.Β
Porn is everywhere in popular fandoms. I saw a Pikachu with a dick once, and I always see pony and shrek porn. In fact, I was looking for Phantom of the Opera porn when I saw Shrek raping donkey LOL.
There may be more cases of porn than others, but there is always gonna be porn. Most of us get used to it, but nobody is gonna get used to it if we keep trying to talk about it. That is why I try to refrain from talking about R34 unless I joke about it. Joking stops seriousnesses, and when it comes to harmless sex and porn, its great to joke about it.Β
We tend to not give a shit at all. There are films that USA channels refuse to air because its to sexual, when we air those films yearly. Last time I looked at Channel "GO!" (A well know channel) at 9PM, I saw a film with Owen Wilson in it and him and his friends were skinny dipping.
One was large.
One was average.
One was tiny.Β
No censorship whatsoever.
So I think if Australians found out about it, they would get over it within a few seconds xD
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If you like some anthropomorphic characters, you might be one a bit at start. xD
One time I saw something really crazy with Pikachu uploaded by a troll on Youtube for a Youtube channel background. Though, Pokemon and some other might count as 'furry'. Not too clear.. xD
Yeah it's true. Though furry to me in terms of that side, it's probably more than just 'porn' in terms of sexual. xD
I wish people could be more open about it without joking about it sometimes. xD Though, I don't think "normal" porn is much open, either but in terms of tamed down, then I think furry should be like that too and accepted. However for porn, I do hear people openly joke about it, without much hate. It's not so much the same for some fandoms though maybe. :/
If Australia is more open, then I wish USA goes into that direction if it's not. xD
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I consider the human shape pokemon to be furries/anthromorphic (Lopunny is a great example). A lot of pokemon fans are pokephiles, and while they get hate, the fandom is not known for it. Its probably because pokemon is in almost everyone's childhood, so they choose to pretend it does not exist for the sake of not ruining it.Β
If we teach people to find it funny, they will be more accepting of it. Most of internet society has accepted trolls because they can be funny, so it works lol.
Sure, we cannot own guns, have an abortion and the current Prime Minister is being a dick about gay rights, we as a society are pretty open despite the silly politics xD
We constantly change PM's too, so it always turns out to be fair for everyone. Once there were 3 PM's in a span of only 6 months! Probably less than 6 months xD
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It can be confusing to tell if Pokemon are anthropomorphic because of the way they use them as 'non-human animals'. At least it's possible for a fan to still draw four legged Pokemon as anthropomorphic (If they express themselves like they could talk with humans) characters if they wanted. And oh. You know, I think I "used" to like some Pokemon in some ways (Probably those classic vore things).
Sometimes I find 'fetishes' funny when someone expresses to find it funny, but then I see people seriously show their disgust, and kinda ruins the idea of 'acceptance'.
But that could be one way, though as long if it's not for 'mock' purposes or any other rude way. xD
I don't know about open, but the reputation of in America is pretty sad around open furries.
'PM's'?
Yeah I hope things get better for acceptance. I'm still hoping it will someday.
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I know there is one pokemon in the Anime that can talk, and Alakazam has a 5000 IQ, so perhaps in some cases, pokeporn is not exactly beastiality, but can still be considered furry porn.Β
I do not think vore is counted as beastiality, though I personally prefer human on human vore
It can take a while for someone to accept something, especially if we are new to the news. Like how you are getting used to humans. We should give people some time, eventually they will stop caring about it and maybe even find the humor in the subject
Prime Ministers, we had 3 different Prime Ministers in a matter of a few weeks xD
Whenever I get mad at people, I remind myself that the world always changes for the better. Years ago babies were taken away from mothers if she was not married. Nowadays that is considered unethical. In Australia, this happened only 30 years ago, but we changed very quickly.Β
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Maybe. Though if a four legged Eevee somewhere was talking and signing papers, then I wouldn't want to consider it either (Even fan made can count too). My only problem with 'bestiality' is the lack of consent. xD If there is, then I don't care.
Yeah idk. I guess 100% animal 'bestiality' only counts if it's the 'putting a certain thing in a certain location'. Haha
Not sure. It could be complicated. I was more used to humans before, then I feel like getting to the hate side due to what I kept on seeing later in life.
Oh I see I think. I have a mind set to get better. Though it's more for either 2-3 things. 1. The thing you may not like along with a bible thing. 2. The matrix theory or something kinda like it. 3. Some kind of 'magical shift' based off those interesting articles. xD
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Most "beastiality" in fiction is consensual, so idc about furry or pokeporn. Real life beastiality is a whole other thing
Thats because the media talks about the bad side of humanity more then the nice side. Most humans are good, but with the media only ever talks about the shit we do.Β
It can be hard, but try not to let media influence your feelings. Its best if we stick to logic, not to television xDΒ
i see
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