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UPDATE:
I found this interesting URL:
definitions.uslegal.com/c/cybe…
UPDATE DONE
Also, I suggest looking here too.
I was looking around and saw a disgusting video trying to shame someone for having a "fart fetish".
I was like "What the fucking hell is wrong with having one? Who fucking cares?" or something.
It was like a small "popular" guy trying to expose this guy for having it, trying to shame him in the public for it. I mean what the fuck did that "fart loving" person do to him?
This is also why I am afraid to come out myself I think.
Now I have no right to tell others 'him/her' to take some offensive opinions against him/her' as offensive, but I'm sure many don't want to be shamed for coming out of the closet for there own "fetish". This type of stuff hurts, or can. Some people may not care being shamed and I respect that, but many people probably do like me.
Hell, you cannot even "choose" to simply not like a "fetish". Though I hear some can kinda get over it some (Same can happen to even the common stuff, I call it a shift).. Though it may depend on how they grew up with it. For me, I cannot choose and I don't need to I think.
And I believe it's PART of your orientation. Like it's part of the orientation development as growing up.
Because of shaming people, or humiliating them in public for coming out or just having one can be very offensive, hurtful, etc.. Trying to get society to either censor the guy, or do worse things to him for having one is nearly (Or worse) much the same as 'slut shaming'.
Want to know what 'slut shaming' brought?
HERE:
jezebel.com/5955093/slut-shame…
www.xojane.com/issues/bullying…
Now what if "fetish shaming" leads to it?
Honestly, shaming anyone publicly should be illegal. And I do not want to hear that "You can get over it" crap because that obviously won't work for everyone due to the effects.
Even if suicide isn't happening, it can possibly still be very painful to others.
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Yes, this isn't the only thing I wish to be considered illegal. I believe trying to ruin someone's lives for expressing themselves (Internet or not) is very effective, abusive, and just 'wrong'. So it should be illegal. Even if it's just trying to control/censor someone's lives. Choice or not (e.g.Expressing your physical self).
Back to "fetishes", having a fetish or expressing it or both without forcing doesn't hurt people, but shaming or humiliating or both ways to people for having it or expressing it in public, can.
People get to have the "shitty" common boring human kissing stuff and even openly express deeper things (Witcher 3 anyone?) but not even (possibly) a tamed down simple anthropomorphism vore, legs, boobs, whatever? What about 'giant'? Is that even a 'sexuality'? It's more like a "way" for something greater. lol
This is successfully part of the 3 reasons as to why I'm a misanthrope generally. - Reason 1: Abuse, unfair, etc. against those who are different.
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Yeah because OPINIONS should be illegal
FREEDOM OF SPEECH ANYONE!?
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Harassment isn't freedom of speech,
However, it's okay if you are only attacking the fetish and not the person.
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Yeah it's still wrong to shame people, but it still is freedom of speech IN THE REAL WORLD, but not here.
That's what I meant.
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A fetish is part of someone. Saying this directly to someone and/or complaining about someone expressing it is no different than complaining about homosexual expression.
A homophobia hate speech is also an opinion too, so yeah, some opinions should be considered hate speech since they are very unnecessary and promotes more hate. If negativity was just criticism (e.g. That type of sex act could be dangerous, please be careful!") then that is completely fine maybe.
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I know.
Homosuxality is ALSO a part of something.
And even though I support LGBT, if there is homosexual porn, or any porn, it should be censored. Not because of THEM, but because of the content that isn't friendsly to kids, heterosexual or homosexual.
I'm not attacking the PEOPLE who like the fetish, but just the object itself
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Sorry for the late reply, if you think it's old and don't want to reply then you don't have to.
"I'm not attacking the PEOPLE who like the fetish, but just the object itself"
But that can be the same if you complain about others practicing it in a safe and legal way.
If you mean that porn shouldn't show without mature then I kinda agree, but I do not agree that fetish = porn as some fetishes don't have to be too sexual.
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Your reply WAS late. Late enough for me to change my ways.
Now I agree with you.
If it's safe and consensual, it's ok.
(Sorry if that sounded weird to you, but remember a year is long enough for me to shange views. I literally went from fetish-hating Anti-SJW to fetish-accepting SJW)
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I'm not going to "shame" people but I am going to make fun of it.
Fetishes are like a tiny part of a person calm down.
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I agree I think fetish shaming is just immature and childish
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OP has good intentions obviously, but such a thing would still infringe on free speech. People are free to criticize, and imho the line between bullying and criticizing in today's society is still pretty fuzzy to most. I see bullying as harassment, personally. I see harassment as constantly badgering someone and going out of their way to ruin their life.
Additionally I want to say that I responded without reading the entire description yet. I'm sorry. I'll read the description in a bit and edit my comment appropriately. I'm sure there are several things I'm missing
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there is a pedophillia fetish, crush fetish (killing small animals with a heel), hunting fetish, baby fetish and a lot of illegal, disgusting fetishes
wonders why you think kinkshaming should be illegal again?
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Considering this is coming from someone who views all criticism as bullying/harassment, I find it hard to take this seriously. Or you seriously.
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Dood~! Kinkshaming IS a reasonable fetish for most people~!
Making it illegal is like making sexual thoughts put to court.
What should ACTUALLY be illegal is Pedophilia
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What about people who have a fetish for young kids?
If I'm not allowed to shame that person for having a fetish for young kids, then how do I help this person?
I can't say "you need therapy help because you have a fetish for kids" because that will considered "fetish shaming".
I can't provide help for that person who is obsessed with young kids because that will be also considered "fetish shaming".
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That isn't shaming, shaming is saying " You are sick! Kill yourself! You deserve to be hated! You are cancer! " that is shaming! I was called a pedophile and I was told I loved to abuse people! That is shaming! You are advising.
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When you make something public, it affects others, and they have the right to protest. You can't force people into silence because you don't want to be scrutinized; that's fascism.
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Well it's okay to dislike fetishes but not to bash a PERSON for their fetish IMO.
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I don't like most fetishes, but I won't hate on someone for having one.
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I hate the foot fetish, fart fetish, giantess fetish, etc.. But I don't flame anyone because they like it.
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So pedophile shaming should be illegal but emotion abuse is fine?
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I think some emotional abuse should be illegal. But the very easy non-targeting people public stuff shouldn't.
Example: Saying "Silly person! Hehe!" could cause a trigger to someone, but I think it would be too far to make illegal maybe.
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You didn't answer my question.
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I think if a 'Fetish' starts to hurt people, then it's probably a different case.
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Why did you respond, then? I just get the purpose of your comment, sorry.
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Oh lol, srry m8
Its just a silly comment tbh
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Some speech isn't considered 'Free' by some laws and/or policies of other people's property (e.g. Deviantart).
I believe some things should count as Free speech, but speech that attacks other people in public, I think should be controlled for many reasons.
But for speech that's all about being yourselves and not negatively and interfering other people, I am very sure that it should be free speech.
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So free speech unless someone somewhere gets offended...
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Not if it's just a picture someone hates and feel offended by for example.
Like being offended by a NSFW picture but wasn't forced shouldn't be a ticket to censorship.
I think 'offensive' only counts if it involves content that is directed (Not a reaction, but directly) at the offended person and it was negativity in rude ways in public. However, making an article in terms of respectful disagreement or criticism like "Why Obama is wrong on __" should be allowed I guess.
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Okay.
First, anyone could consider anything offensive if it is directed at them. We can't outlaw terms altogether because it's easy to take things out of context and get offended.
Second, people aren't OFFENDED by NSFW content, they are simply either annoyed, disgusted, ect. Aside from radical feminists, I've never heard a case where someone was all like "I FIND THIS PORNO INSULTING!!!" It's more like "This is gross/not right/immoral."
Third, you put your last point as if you're reluctant to allow respectful criticism and you're simply throwing a bone.
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I say if a picture contains someone in it, but has nothing to do with defamatory, mock, humiliation, etc, purposes, then maybe it should be allowed.
I even believe that 'Copyright' is nothing but a monopoly and shouldn't be used to censor anything.
Really? I think (sort of) I hear people do get offended by people expressing themselves with that stuff (Perhaps ask a group of anti-porn people yourself), or that they promote censorship on stuff like the Confederate flag just because of their emotional minds.
I also hear people say they are offended by the rainbow flag (A sign of Gay rights right?) because it violates there religion or something, etc, etc.
The ones who did that crap to me, was awful at it. And wasn't respect. < If you are referring to certain people.
Perhaps I need to be careful on it. If someone is horrible at the criticism and it's nothing but bias negativity, then I think it could be different and even could fall under defamatory all over again or that the 'criticism' can really be attached to horrible negative results.
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Are flags NSFW? I thought not. NSFW content does not offend people. It just has the innate possibility of grossing them out.
Criticism will be given. Whether positive or negative. Stopping it is nearly dystopian.
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I do not agree with this at all, if it's a fetish that can HURT someone then you shouldn't baby the fetishists it's not good at all and you can make someone take their fucked up fetish to the next level. People shouldn't have to get hurt just because someone has a hard on for something.
If it's a fetish like a 'fart' fetish then fine, those people are fine, but if it's something like 'CP' then FUCK. NO. those people do not deserve anything and should be locked in a cage.
It also makes me sick to my fucking stomach all the fetishists are hiding in the deep web with their sick ass sites devoted to their fucked up fetishes, i wish all those sites would get taken down.
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I wasn't saying people can hurt others with it. But shaming someone for just having it, while controlling it to not hurt (Like anything) is bad.
I'm concerned with 'CP' involving real children, though imo, they need to go after the makers and encourage those who only download to delete it I guess. I honestly find it really sad to see someone watch a real person get raped and enjoying that.. Ugh...
I hope your talking about sites that actually promote hurtful things like rape porn.
And not talking about the harmless ones like 'fart', 'foot', etc, etc. (The consensual ones too).
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More like... Sexuality shaming should be illegal.
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Pretty much maybe. "Fetishes" are just part of someone's sexuality honestly or something about it. Though, I focused on this term since what's considered a "fetish" is probably more bashed on than what's "not" considered a "fetish".
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