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Plague-Doc-Matteo — Bionicle MOC: Matteo Old and New

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Description Update(7/1/13)
Matteo now has a cape. After obtaining some Construct-A-Zurg capes at a very cheap price I toyed around with one on Matteo. At first it was just for the laughs in Bionicle MOCkery but then I sat down and worked out an actual attachment method for the cape, and I've kept it. Like with many things on Matteo I went for a realistic attachment for his cape. It is held on by another brown chain that keeps the cape from falling off. The chain is fastened to the cape via the capes natural connection points. I personally don't care for this particular cape as its a very stiff canvas material that doesn't drape right at all, but the shape of the cape and the black and red two tone are perfect for Matteo. I make it a point to keep Hero Factory off of Matteo and luckily these don't fall into that category. At some point down the road I may spring for a Darth Vader cape though. I did the actual fixes a while ago, I'm just now getting around to posting the changes.

Update(3/21/13)
Matteo has been updated again. Updates include
  • Color distribution changes(slight bit on upper chest, inside upper arm, middle of forearm).

  • Revamped legs with new front of shin design, swapped out black wide lift arms with dark red for more even color distribution, added BIONICLE POCKETS!

  • Changed wrist watch to pocket watch.

  • Changed cross pendant to up side down bat pendant.

  • Modified cane to include aesthetic(removed scorpion and moved spider back to top, added red spikes on side) and structural changes(is stronger now).

The legs overall got the most work here. It wasn't all done at the same time. Between now and the previous version I had redone the shin designs. The bionicle pockets came out of necessity of wanting to change Matteo's watch to a pocket watch. Well a pocket watch needs a pocket to go into, unless its the clippy kind which I didn't want so therefore he needed pockets. His right pocket has gold studs in it to represent loose change. Important people carry important things, important things need important pockets. Pockets are important.
Matteo is the kind of guy who'd have a bunch of pockets filled with stuff in all of them. I may go back and remake his pipe and stick that in his left pocket, or possibly just have it stick out of his messenger bag. Either way it'll be sticking out of something.
An important sidenote. The pockets sit more flush to his legs and don't look so bulky when they're empty, but as I explained Matteo has full pockets so they're a bit bulgy.
The legs were colored and made to mirror the arms a bit with a black center and dark red sides. Not sure how well that works but eh. I do think this all looks a lot more clothes like than the previous design. I also feel I must note that I had to switch the Glatorian fists that connect his thighs to his hips to HF fists because all my red Glatorian fists cracked or broke. I know its probably just a matter of semantics because they really are just the same part, but yeah I kinda had to break my "go by this year rule" with that. The upside though is way more durability and tension in those joints. So please forgive me for using HF parts on Matteo, even in a very subtle way.

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This is an official "previous version comparison" Deviation. This Deviation shouldn't be confused with his Main Deviation or his Detail Deviation . When Matteo gets an update in his designs, I'll update this deviation that way a side by side comparison can be made. The main Deviation will usually be updated, but because of the drastic nature of updating the detail collage, I will only update that when the MOC's current form is drastically changed from the photographed form. Seeing as how Matteo is very near a point of "total satisfaction" this may not happen again, if not for a long while.

Previous and alternate versions
Prototype
Verson 1.0
Version 2.0
Matteonette
Commissioned Art by =LaLa-Volpe
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Comments: 163

Gale-OneOfMany In reply to ??? [2013-01-11 13:43:27 +0000 UTC]

I quite love the designs on this guy. The updates are well done in my humble opinion. I do find it interesting, and perhaps unique, that he is wearing a watch. I just now noticed that. Anyhoot, awesome job

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Plague-Doc-Matteo In reply to Gale-OneOfMany [2013-01-13 12:43:17 +0000 UTC]

Thanks Gale. Glad you like it. HAHA yeah people kinda over look the subtle little details of this MOC, like his pendant, or watch, the bag I think isn't hard to miss, but its been a long time since I've shown what's in it. He had a guitar at on point but it looked dumb so I disassembled it. He needs an instrument of some sort though.

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Gale-OneOfMany In reply to Plague-Doc-Matteo [2013-01-13 12:57:56 +0000 UTC]

Hmm, I'm going to guess he isn't so much of a harp guy, huh? XP

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Plague-Doc-Matteo In reply to Gale-OneOfMany [2013-01-13 13:53:33 +0000 UTC]

Nah. Not a bad idea, cause just making a harp would be cool. I guess a lot of elastics would be needed for that, but a harp wouldn't suit him. The only thing I see working for matteo since he wears a mask is a strinned instrument. Then we come back to the problem I have, I'd want it to be brown and tan, which I don't have the parts to do that right now.

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Wretched--Stare In reply to ??? [2013-01-11 05:32:50 +0000 UTC]

He just gets better every time!

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Plague-Doc-Matteo In reply to Wretched--Stare [2013-01-13 12:43:27 +0000 UTC]

Thanks Greg.

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Wretched--Stare In reply to Plague-Doc-Matteo [2013-01-14 20:24:35 +0000 UTC]

Is true, you have improved greatly with every version of every MOC you make.

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Plague-Doc-Matteo In reply to Wretched--Stare [2013-01-15 12:31:13 +0000 UTC]

I dunno if I've improved with every MOC, but I do continue to try and push myself as a MOCer. Thanks for the encouragement.

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Wretched--Stare In reply to Plague-Doc-Matteo [2013-01-15 12:31:46 +0000 UTC]

Welcome and you have bro!

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Plague-Doc-Matteo In reply to Wretched--Stare [2013-01-15 12:39:20 +0000 UTC]

Yeah but...not ever MOC is me trying to improve or do something OMG amazing. Like Neevak, or snip. Those were just MOCs for MOCing's sake. Wasn't even trying.

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Wretched--Stare In reply to Plague-Doc-Matteo [2013-01-15 12:43:05 +0000 UTC]

Still they were creative and cool!

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Igglebock In reply to ??? [2013-01-11 00:11:30 +0000 UTC]

Holy cow, this design is fantastic, and both versions are a treat to look at.

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Plague-Doc-Matteo In reply to Igglebock [2013-01-11 00:15:10 +0000 UTC]

Thank you.

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welcometothedarksyde [2013-01-10 23:23:02 +0000 UTC]

I like the older version more I think. The original looks more organic but the new version looks too square. I seem to notice more bricks on this one as well

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Plague-Doc-Matteo In reply to welcometothedarksyde [2013-01-11 00:09:31 +0000 UTC]

There are more system parts on this one. Hmmm...I may take the ones off the legs. I'm mostly worried about the color scheme though. I think I might need to add back the darkred on his legs. What do you think?

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welcometothedarksyde In reply to Plague-Doc-Matteo [2013-01-11 00:36:05 +0000 UTC]

I think that his colors should be more evenly balanced all across his body, which mainly means that his arms are too red and his legs are too black. Do you mean the dark red long Technic pieces? I do think Matteo looks better with them

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Plague-Doc-Matteo In reply to welcometothedarksyde [2013-01-11 00:49:54 +0000 UTC]

Yes I do mean those. ALright Well I'll go back and "rebalance him" cause he does look unbalanced. I just wanted him to look like hes wearing clothes, at least somewhat.

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welcometothedarksyde In reply to Plague-Doc-Matteo [2013-01-11 02:22:35 +0000 UTC]

BTW, where did you get Matteo's mask?

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Plague-Doc-Matteo In reply to welcometothedarksyde [2013-01-11 02:49:32 +0000 UTC]

Its from a Lego Vikings set. This Set to be exact. That's where I got Remaku's wings, the detailed shield piece that's on O-jin, as well as the printed part that's on Hyde's shoulder, the mini figure from the Self preservation episode of Bionicle MOCkery, the dark red Bohrok legs that ended up on Hyderbawl, and I've probably used a bunch of the other parts to. I've made excellent use of that set. Sucks that that's the only Viking set I ever got.

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welcometothedarksyde In reply to Plague-Doc-Matteo [2013-01-11 03:06:49 +0000 UTC]

oh cool, it actually came with a lot of Bionicle parts

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Plague-Doc-Matteo In reply to welcometothedarksyde [2013-01-11 03:49:01 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, that was the cool thing about the viking sets, lots of bionicle recolors. I should look into getting other sets. But then again it'd just be piled onto the list of sets I want to get. I already really badly want the golden Dragen, Scarox, A construct-a-Zurg(maybe two), Speeda Demon, and the rest of the Brain attack series.

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welcometothedarksyde In reply to Plague-Doc-Matteo [2013-01-11 05:04:02 +0000 UTC]

That's the thing, with so much new product you can't go back and get older stuff

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Plague-Doc-Matteo In reply to welcometothedarksyde [2013-01-11 05:16:59 +0000 UTC]

Not true. Old HF sets are going for nothing on Ebay. When I have another largish lump of money for legos, hopefully that'll still be the case and I'll go get some sets I've wanted. It really depends on if the set sold well when it was in retail, or if its hard to get a hold of.

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welcometothedarksyde In reply to Plague-Doc-Matteo [2013-01-11 06:06:45 +0000 UTC]

Well for some reason the 1.0 sets I don't have go for insanely high prices

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Plague-Doc-Matteo In reply to welcometothedarksyde [2013-01-15 14:54:38 +0000 UTC]

No they don't, the 2.0 either. I think its just that they're older and less in demand now with each new series. The bigger sets though aren't cheap. its the canister crap that is dime a dozen.

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welcometothedarksyde In reply to Plague-Doc-Matteo [2013-01-15 17:33:03 +0000 UTC]

Where? I was on Ebay the other day and Surge cost $30 minimum. On Bricklink?

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Plague-Doc-Matteo In reply to welcometothedarksyde [2013-01-15 18:01:32 +0000 UTC]

Both. You gotta know how to look on Ebay, change the search results settings to Price+shipping:lowest first. I like to do that and check free shipping to see if anything comes up. Buy now>Price+shipping:lowest first>free shipping is the optimal setting.

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welcometothedarksyde In reply to Plague-Doc-Matteo [2013-01-15 18:29:35 +0000 UTC]

Free shipping is never to Canada and usually cheap prices only ship to the US. On a similar note I was going to buy a Mindstorms off of LEGO.com yesterday and it was like $270+ $20 shipping+ a Legends of Chima Polybag. I didn't realize that was the US offer so when I checked of that I lived in Canada it cost $350 and no Chima polybag (apparently it's not available in my country). I was so pissed of that the mark up is literally $70-$80 dollars. Bottom line I'm giving up on purchasing one

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Plague-Doc-Matteo In reply to welcometothedarksyde [2013-01-15 21:22:19 +0000 UTC]

I read about that somewhere. A comment? That sucks buddy. I'm sorry. I'd help out and say order it to me and I'll forward it or something but even if you had it sent here and forwarded, it'd still be about that much to ship it to you wouldn't it? Cause that's a considerable Markup, you're right.

But fuck, you've got that much money for legos? Shit. I can't even afford the poly bag. I'm so broke. Was at Wal-Mart just now and they had the Golden Dragon, Chima set I wanted(Razcal's Glider), and all the brain attack sets. My dad was like "this is a cool set you could get a lot from this" and some other sets and I was like "yeah but I don't have 60(70,80) bucks for a lego set."

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welcometothedarksyde In reply to Plague-Doc-Matteo [2013-01-15 22:03:29 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, the shipping might be about as much as the mark up sadly.
I have about $200 dollars of school funding which I haven't spent. Mindstorms was going to be one of my projects. I'm not paying nearly $400 bucks after tax so I'm not sure what I'm going to do.
Razcal's Glider? I bet you want it for the feather pieces (It'd be cool to use those as a quill). You may want to save up for something a bit larger though. Usually LEGO charges a lot for the below $15 sets, considering that they don't come with much. Are you getting closer to a source of income, or is the US economy still to shit. Ironically Canada tends to be the opposite of the US. Right now our economy is wonderful. Sadly stuff still costs more because everything is supplied through the US, and that means despite our economy we pay more

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Plague-Doc-Matteo In reply to welcometothedarksyde [2013-01-15 22:23:42 +0000 UTC]

Ah i see. That's about the same "mostly bullshit" reason I used school funding to buy a new bass amp back when I was in college. "I'm going to school for music, I'm buying the thing I need to play my instrument." XD It was 85% bullshit with 15%legitimacy. And this is the same thing dude, don't even try to pretend its not.

I may have mentioned this before but its the combination of factors, Bad economy=its just hard to get a job, period+bad eyesight=-ability to drive= drastically divided radius in which I could even search for a job, let alone actually get to and from it with any real security or efficiency(bus system isn't cheap and only runs certain hours), -actual jobs I can do(any job that requires good eyesight or driving are automatically off the table)+no job experience to put down on a resume = snowballs chance in hell of me getting a job. And the disability claim is gonna take a while, if not longer than a year.

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welcometothedarksyde In reply to Plague-Doc-Matteo [2013-01-15 23:24:01 +0000 UTC]

True. The $200 dollars I already spent from this year's funding was used for a good quality camera
Is your eyesight condition degenerative? Do glasses help much? I assume your driving difficulty is related to your eye problem. Maybe I'm being dumb but could you get a job at like McDonalds or Walmart? For entry level they don't require past job experience.

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Plague-Doc-Matteo In reply to welcometothedarksyde [2013-01-16 04:46:00 +0000 UTC]

Oh, well that's good. You mentioned a photography class right? Is that yoru major?
No, doctors say its not degenerative, that it's stable. My glasses take the edge off from the Astigmatism. The optic Nerve Atrophy is permanent, and unfixable, or uncorrectable. So I'm just screwed, permanently.
I've applied at McDonald's and Wal-Mart. Even had my mom as a reference since she worked at wal-mart at one point. Wal-mart's policy literally is that they can't talk about application inquiries. So that whole "bug them constantly call and ask" routine doesn't work. I've never once heard from either of them. Got a handful of best buy interviews, two target interviews, JCpenys, Starbucks, and home Depot. Of all the crap load of apps I've put in multiple times at the locations I could get to, that's all I've ever gotten. The thing is I can't search around in the other side of the city or the cities within commuting distance from here. I know for a fact I'd have a job if I could drive cause I'd be doing security(like my best friend and his brother are doing) or working at the Guitar Center in Modesto or Sacramento, I'd be able to really cover a large area and do it consistently like it requires. There's still the fact that US's economy is in the shitter, and I'm 24 with no job experience.

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welcometothedarksyde In reply to Plague-Doc-Matteo [2013-01-16 07:18:33 +0000 UTC]

I'm not in University, I'm 14 I home-school with a custom curriculum
Well at least it's stable. Does you visual impairment affect you everyday life e.g. MOCing, reading, cleaning?

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Plague-Doc-Matteo In reply to welcometothedarksyde [2013-01-16 17:25:33 +0000 UTC]

Oh...Well I did not know that.

It affects reading. I don't like to read books because of the strain it puts on my eyes. Reading a backlit computer screen where I can zoom the page in is fine, but print is hard for me to read. As for anything else, not really. Its mostly just text or writing I have problems seeing. It does make me wonder how that'd effect working at any job. Never got behind a register to see if I could read those screens. Like The DA message board. I have it zoomed in about three times just so I can read it comfortably. On my screen, its zoomed in just before the bottom sideways scroll bar comes up. Here's a comparison. The left is the page set to the default, hit ctrl+0 and it resets it, the right is what I have it zoomed into.

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welcometothedarksyde In reply to Plague-Doc-Matteo [2013-01-16 20:05:19 +0000 UTC]

Woah, that screenshot must've been taken a while ago. You had Toxin as a new deviation

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Plague-Doc-Matteo In reply to welcometothedarksyde [2013-01-16 20:35:40 +0000 UTC]

Nope, it was taken recently. I just am that behind on commenting on your shit.

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welcometothedarksyde In reply to Plague-Doc-Matteo [2013-01-16 20:37:59 +0000 UTC]

Have you seen them? If not then there are some cool surprises

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Plague-Doc-Matteo In reply to welcometothedarksyde [2013-01-18 23:45:07 +0000 UTC]

I've seen them yeah. THe little submarine is cool. You make MOCs I kick myself for not thinking of or MOCs I wish I had the parts so that I could then kick myself for not thinking of using them that way.

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welcometothedarksyde In reply to Plague-Doc-Matteo [2013-01-19 01:11:03 +0000 UTC]

Likewise. I wish I had your patience. I usually disassemble my MOCs before they are well developed. I also don't make large MOCs (unlike you) because I lose interest too quickly. Plus you have a lot more pieces than I do, I usually can't afford to keep stuff together :3

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Plague-Doc-Matteo In reply to welcometothedarksyde [2013-01-19 02:13:58 +0000 UTC]

True, most can't keep their MOCs together, but both methods have their pros and cons. I don't compete in contests because I can't turn around and reuse a MOC's parts like most do. Like the BSCS on MOCpages. I don't think I could seriously hold up to anyone there because I can't flip around and just do something so quick. If I make something I like, I keep it, and come back to it if I think it needs work.

Keeping interested in the big stuff means pacing yourself. Its not gonna get done in a day or even two. You just gotta know the pay off will be worth it in the end, more worth it than any instant gratification a one day MOC will give.

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welcometothedarksyde In reply to Plague-Doc-Matteo [2013-01-19 03:06:18 +0000 UTC]

True, I have made some large things (over 1 foot tall), however I also have trouble finding enough parts of one color. I have huge amounts of black, gunmetal, and red. But my blue, orange, and purple parts are lacking. So rather than making a huge fustercluck of pieces I try to work within my means. I think that sometimes it seems like I have tons of parts but It is often just smart use of parts to make stuff seem cohesive. That was especially evident on my slightly older work where their insides were a mess because I focused my resources on the outside

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Plague-Doc-Matteo In reply to welcometothedarksyde [2013-01-20 05:58:51 +0000 UTC]

I disagree with that. I think you could use that stuff more as accents and use the black and other abundant colors as the main and the less abundant stuff as accents. You look at MOCers and its like they're afraid of using multiple or weird color schemes, but in actuality, that's how you can distinguish yourself or make a MOC that stands out. Case and point:
Relik has to be my weirdest color scheme to date.
Wretched Stare is very bright and flashy(on purpose)
Kutumah 's mentality was "what colors could I use with indigo(that shade of purple) that I've never seen use before?" Then I threw in a smidgen of white because it fit, I explained it and use it in a way that I could get away with.
these two are about color grouping to an extent. It wasn't "use a shade of red" it was "use the different shades of red" or Green. If I get back to doing Mototaur I plan to do that moreso with the browns. Gonna try to reduce some colors and implement more Tan and maybe even get the sand brown in there. Dunno. Don't be afraid to use color. You're gonna get mixed reactions from it, like I do, but hey, I get reactions out of people with it.

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welcometothedarksyde In reply to Plague-Doc-Matteo [2013-01-20 06:57:33 +0000 UTC]

You kind of have to do that don't you? Orithyia my largest MOC used two shades of green and several other colors. I have to say though that I don't put too much thought into color. My MOC's color is largely determined by parts availability. I would have preferred my Self-MOC (Glideslope) to be more colorful, but most of his important parts are only in those colors. Most of my concern with color is whether it looks good.
Speaking of which, I was thinking of making a different Self-MOC. Glideslope wasn't originally supposed to be it but I decided that he would be my temporary Self-MOC. I would have preferred a more original concept (maybe even microbiology or nuclear inspired?), however I've grown attached to GS more than I thought I would. Maybe I could compromise and make a mix of old and new?
Tan on Mototaur? That's sad, I liked his Keetorange. I'd have to see what he looked like though

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st3vethesquid In reply to ??? [2013-01-10 22:20:20 +0000 UTC]

Hmm. I like the torso changes, but I think you added too much black on the legs, and too much red on the arms. The legs are debatable, but I don't think there's any excusing the fact that his lower arms are entirely red now.

And that watch sticks out too much, I suggest using a smaller part, like a 1x1 compass tile from POTC.

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Plague-Doc-Matteo In reply to st3vethesquid [2013-01-11 00:07:10 +0000 UTC]

I don't have a cumpass, and that'd be too small I think. Watches can be big. Relative to his wrist, its alright, kinda big and guady for a watch, but that kinda seems Matteo's style.

Yeah noticed that. The idea is to get the color scattering down to a minimum, with him. There's a few parts that I probably could use a different color, but the part is committed to another MOC.

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st3vethesquid In reply to Plague-Doc-Matteo [2013-01-11 01:01:07 +0000 UTC]

Well I can see the size is reasonable, but it sticks out too much IMO.

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Plague-Doc-Matteo In reply to st3vethesquid [2013-01-11 01:04:53 +0000 UTC]

I agree, but I don't have anything else. it was either that or nothing. I wanted to make it a pocket watch with a chain, but to make it with a lid that opens up it wouldn't be compact enough, and the biggest problem I had with that concept...Matteo has no pockets. XD

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st3vethesquid In reply to Plague-Doc-Matteo [2013-01-11 21:43:28 +0000 UTC]

Lol I guess

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Plague-Doc-Matteo In reply to st3vethesquid [2013-01-12 12:33:47 +0000 UTC]

Eh, not much else that can be done in this case.

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